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From: Jameson Graef Rollins <jrollins@caltech.edu>
To: Ciprian Dorin Craciun <ciprian.craciun@gmail.com>,
	David Bremner <david@tethera.net>
Cc: notmuch@notmuchmail.org, Daniel Kahn Gillmor <dkg@fifthhorseman.net>
Subject: Re: Inconsistencies in handling command flags: `--flag=value` different than `--flag value`
Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2020 09:07:12 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87v9limg27.fsf@caltech.edu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CA+Tk8fxDTPHJATotNXRJH3u-YnFprE0H_GR-s8esjjT=kNG=_Q@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, Apr 29 2020, Ciprian Dorin Craciun <ciprian.craciun@gmail.com> wrote:
> I think there are two complete different use-cases for the `notmuch` binary:
> * a simple CLI to query the database, in which case the current flags seem OK;
> * a "poor-mans" API to query the database, more bellow;
>
> (I know there already exists an `libnotmuch` API accessible in many
> programming languages.  However for prototyping, and even for safety
> and robustness, when performance isn't an issue, I find the tool-based
> approach much more resilient.)
>
> Now about the "API" use-case,  I assume that at the moment many users
> have already integrated `notmuch` as it is with the current flags and
> behaviour.  Thus I agree that changing any flags in backward
> incompatible way would make a lot of people unhappy, and will generate
> perhaps quite a bit of "customer support".  :)

This is a good point.  The CLI might be "poor", but important apps like
notmuch-emacs are using them, so we should be careful about changing the
interface.

> Regarding the `--boolean` vs `--no-boolean` it does solve the
> strictness problem, however it makes the life of script developers
> quite hard, as now he has a `case` or `if/then/else`.  Therefore I
> would say that `--flag=value` is the best option as it can be simply
> written as `--flag={FLAG:-true}` or in Python for example `"--flag=%s"
> % _flag`.

Also a good point.  I guess the --flag=value interface is a safer/easier
one to converge on.

> Thinking even further uppon this, perhaps an even simpler idea would
> be to provide a new command, like for example `notmuch api` that takes
> on `stdin` a JSON with a specific format and does its job.

This actually sounds like a pretty good idea...

jamie.

  reply	other threads:[~2020-04-29 16:07 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-04-24 12:53 Inconsistencies in handling command flags: `--flag=value` different than `--flag value` Ciprian Dorin Craciun
2020-04-27 17:53 ` David Bremner
2020-04-27 18:02   ` Daniel Kahn Gillmor
2020-04-27 18:20     ` Tomi Ollila
2020-04-27 19:21       ` Ciprian Dorin Craciun
2020-04-29  2:16         ` Daniel Kahn Gillmor
2020-04-29 14:18           ` Tomi Ollila
2020-04-29 15:39             ` David Bremner
2020-04-29 15:45               ` Jameson Graef Rollins
2020-04-29 16:28                 ` David Bremner
2020-05-05 18:28                 ` Carl Worth
2020-05-07 19:26                   ` [PATCH] notmuch(1): clarify documentation about --option/value separators Daniel Kahn Gillmor
2020-05-07 23:40                     ` Carl Worth
2020-05-08 12:01                       ` David Bremner
2020-05-08 16:06                       ` Daniel Kahn Gillmor
2020-04-29 15:59               ` Inconsistencies in handling command flags: `--flag=value` different than `--flag value` Ciprian Dorin Craciun
2020-04-29 16:07                 ` Jameson Graef Rollins [this message]
2020-04-29 15:33           ` Jameson Graef Rollins
2020-04-30 16:59             ` Daniel Kahn Gillmor

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