From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by olra.theworths.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF619431FAF for ; Wed, 1 Aug 2012 20:10:22 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at olra.theworths.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.29 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.29 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, T_MIME_NO_TEXT=0.01] autolearn=disabled Received: from olra.theworths.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (olra.theworths.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id nR0hgVyz3bUA for ; Wed, 1 Aug 2012 20:10:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from outgoing-mail.its.caltech.edu (outgoing-mail.its.caltech.edu [131.215.239.19]) by olra.theworths.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F89C431FAE for ; Wed, 1 Aug 2012 20:10:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from earth-doxen.imss.caltech.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by earth-doxen-postvirus (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3070366E00A3; Wed, 1 Aug 2012 20:10:16 -0700 (PDT) X-Spam-Scanned: at Caltech-IMSS on earth-doxen by amavisd-new Received: from finestructure.net (unknown [131.215.114.198]) (Authenticated sender: jrollins) by earth-doxen-submit (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9879C66E0039; Wed, 1 Aug 2012 20:10:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: by finestructure.net (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 99C9190B; Wed, 1 Aug 2012 20:10:02 -0700 (PDT) From: Jameson Graef Rollins To: David Bremner , 683505@bugs.debian.org, Jakub Wilk Subject: Re: Bug#683505: notmuch: FTBFS if built twice in a row: unrepresentable changes to source In-Reply-To: <87ipd29tu4.fsf@convex-new.cs.unb.ca> References: <20120801103707.GA668@jwilk.net> <87pq7aabl8.fsf@convex-new.cs.unb.ca> <878vdyvdjg.fsf@servo.finestructure.net> <87ipd29tu4.fsf@convex-new.cs.unb.ca> User-Agent: Notmuch/0.13.2+90~gb97ff6a (http://notmuchmail.org) Emacs/23.4.1 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) Date: Wed, 01 Aug 2012 20:10:00 -0700 Message-ID: <87txwmt2ev.fsf@servo.finestructure.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="=-=-="; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature" Cc: notmuch@notmuchmail.org X-BeenThere: notmuch@notmuchmail.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: "Use and development of the notmuch mail system." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 02 Aug 2012 03:10:22 -0000 --=-=-= Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Aug 01 2012, David Bremner wrote: > As I mentioned on IRC, the test only fails on the Debian build machines > (building in a clean chroot using sbuild is not enough) so it isn't > really clear how to duplicate the it. Perhaps building in a clean > virtual machine without networking would do it. For which tests fail, > see > > https://buildd.debian.org/status/fetch.php?pkg=3Dnotmuch&arch=3Di386&ver= =3D0.13.2-1&stamp=3D1338740444 > > I think the first things to fail are emacs tests. At a wild guess, it > looks like all of the failing tests are related to emacs. From=20a cursory look that does appear to be the case. The non-emacs tests that are also failing (json and crypto) are using emacs_deliver_message. Do we have any idea what's going on here? > I don't think failing the build is the right thing to do, since there > does not actually seem to be anything wrong with the resulting > packages. So removing them from Debian because of some problems with > running the test suite seems a bit extreme. People not using > notmuch-emacs would probably be especially annoyed ;). But it also doesn't make much sense to me to run the tests as part of the build only to ignore the result. How do we know that the failing tests aren't actually affecting the distributed packages? The emacs failures could be masking real failures of the emacs interface (which users of notmuch-emacs would probably also find really annoying!). jamie. --=-=-= Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) iQIcBAEBCAAGBQJQGe+IAAoJEO00zqvie6q8tLoP/At/Brauau1gEfbaRT0WyVDK Eidw/T9GqOhc4uzvlldrGZsIqWu22zkvS2pLHm8zInssi1bvuED5DHXxRNEJZcgI HgKszUxTt2JktbAXCTYtfC8J8LnaTKYedUeziW0u/aPNVzkwqUonoMxSu8ARP+Ap FIc/IhbPWR845Gt5deJ46FHJkLzWAy3I9XhexeFSWjfbhkDwZAEDh5ZY+nF1Hcij +Fxufc7WaGkhBHawQBYZZIGncSTO5EpceCYnVgrJDB2gxEVPyTGZRW3MBTcpNQDu mPD16eoZrvNjHE+A1fEFtgQYbmgsCbxlSdiUA2Tdd72Q1qo+ThqVfqZbJ55wQRgc X4s8w9guRb46Mnty6ERosAM6X8k0BQk2WnXbizeK7a3SydDvn8ekN9bctA9oio+q RFQ/VxP95mvUIMo4XqX6GHtd8owUbtDQrl8AtsCgNa+M7yVeqW5If1jO1M4lvH56 lYS0ZVnCPEZelQIzNaOfyxLLXH1Oe7je1XYf3Pp55ApK9PVGRQPtFakLXVxFn7NH 2lZt0pDimm/FyDZ8sXNXeOLKd5mh+zUUU16UwSwmTyW0BWWdorfxlb25r33Y8t3H FMpGZgBJOBBBavySdD5ktfZrVS0BfE6eW7+F3KDeb7hZTtnhYkfsyKwMIcr7NIjW sI6pCBdOrQecRUNKfiqG =G9my -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-=-=--