From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by olra.theworths.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7BDDF431FBD for ; Sun, 13 Jul 2014 08:06:58 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at olra.theworths.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 0.502 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.502 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[DKIM_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED=0.001, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, NML_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED=1.2, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7] autolearn=disabled Received: from olra.theworths.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (olra.theworths.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id H9pPXlj9NFid for ; Sun, 13 Jul 2014 08:06:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail2.qmul.ac.uk (mail2.qmul.ac.uk [138.37.6.6]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by olra.theworths.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 56577431FBC for ; Sun, 13 Jul 2014 08:06:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp.qmul.ac.uk ([138.37.6.40]) by mail2.qmul.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1X6LMT-0001Yq-SO; Sun, 13 Jul 2014 16:06:46 +0100 Received: from 5751dfa2.skybroadband.com ([87.81.223.162] helo=localhost) by smtp.qmul.ac.uk with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES128-SHA:128) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1X6LMT-0006eN-DZ; Sun, 13 Jul 2014 16:06:45 +0100 From: Mark Walters To: Austin Clements , David Bremner Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] emacs: Add support for saved search accelerators In-Reply-To: <20140713143235.GA4660@mit.edu> References: <1399385776-19918-1-git-send-email-dme@dme.org> <1399461694-25350-1-git-send-email-dme@dme.org> <1399461694-25350-2-git-send-email-dme@dme.org> <87ion2gyqo.fsf@maritornes.cs.unb.ca> <20140713035009.GZ4660@mit.edu> <87bnstfiha.fsf@maritornes.cs.unb.ca> <20140713143235.GA4660@mit.edu> User-Agent: Notmuch/0.15.2+615~g78e3a93 (http://notmuchmail.org) Emacs/23.4.1 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2014 16:06:44 +0100 Message-ID: <87r41pjo1n.fsf@qmul.ac.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Sender-Host-Address: 87.81.223.162 X-QM-Geographic: According to ripencc, this message was delivered by a machine in Britain (UK) (GB). X-QM-SPAM-Info: Sender has good ham record. :) X-QM-Body-MD5: 2695dc5386294a6383919217315fb7fc (of first 20000 bytes) X-SpamAssassin-Score: -0.1 X-SpamAssassin-SpamBar: / X-SpamAssassin-Report: The QM spam filters have analysed this message to determine if it is spam. We require at least 5.0 points to mark a message as spam. This message scored -0.1 points. Summary of the scoring: * 0.0 FREEMAIL_FROM Sender email is commonly abused enduser mail provider * (markwalters1009[at]gmail.com) * -0.1 AWL AWL: From: address is in the auto white-list X-QM-Scan-Virus: ClamAV says the message is clean Cc: notmuch@notmuchmail.org X-BeenThere: notmuch@notmuchmail.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: "Use and development of the notmuch mail system." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2014 15:06:58 -0000 > Quoth David Bremner on Jul 13 at 11:20 am: >> Austin Clements writes: >> >> > The right answer might be something between notmuch-go and dme's >> > patch. Currently notmuch-go uses a hard-coded set of searches, while >> > dme's patch derives them from the saved searches. >> >> I'm not really looking for a solution for my own use, just wearing my >> integration manager hat. In that context, a second set of hard coded >> saved searches would be a blocker. > > Sorry, it seems my email wasn't clear. Does notmuch-go address your > user unfriendliness concerns with dme's patch? > > If so, we should combine notmuch-go's UI with dme's customizable key > bindings and think about pushing that (clearly we wouldn't push > notmuch-go as it is). I think dme's patch is only user unfriendly if there are no saved searches configured: if there are some then ? shows them. The problem is that ? does nothing if there aren't any. I don't know whether always showing the bindings (like notmuch-go) or only showing them after ? is pressed (like this series) is better. Best wishes Mark