From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by arlo.cworth.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C695E6DE1105 for ; Sat, 30 Sep 2017 03:10:38 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at cworth.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 0.015 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.015 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.035, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=-0.01, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=-0.01] autolearn=disabled Received: from arlo.cworth.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (arlo.cworth.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id fa-Qud00MnkG for ; Sat, 30 Sep 2017 03:10:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-lf0-f50.google.com (mail-lf0-f50.google.com [209.85.215.50]) by arlo.cworth.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 647816DE1101 for ; Sat, 30 Sep 2017 03:10:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-lf0-f50.google.com with SMTP id d17so1764709lfe.2 for ; Sat, 30 Sep 2017 03:10:37 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=nikula-org.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=from:to:subject:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:mime-version; bh=I/sa51aC6qeaMSOSv6SDbHVKEhTsRpvXWDL+n2hvpRM=; b=dNe3chRfXRnHCeWThWjERLfERKPaZ/Q3iR/YeHDFUIVLnv4QcX/i6Y6xtop9bZUQaD 7svKBMvX5jkG/XAKhdgoXhpCRSTZxeU4vkc3KdUqm448ugYRu4LQGvJAHsVxFs+wSC+/ LVZxx+9utIjCUAfxWXW3xfzv/hw+Wg2QZu2K5h1LY6djaRyNQp1dmk6M2pAF+UiGYEqP pUl4t/8L++97u9eWYzoe+Ycaq4IuoZnZAICo/C/pNTlLvIubGgQJy9FdedkRDoNySJZL 83McO18NgSL6wh8kVun/VZK5O3Sgqj0F5sXE6yEzQarxwoZzypma8PrKSm3geFb9VCGX Auig== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:mime-version; bh=I/sa51aC6qeaMSOSv6SDbHVKEhTsRpvXWDL+n2hvpRM=; b=AaLWKr2JWMqgXuyECXRDVWelrMxWtat848ldPOezAzbjet8V2rkjXtVY2Cd7+PL2S7 gSlcjRt2vmqmiDd0elWyYEqdUiNmQrTBn4lgLHIq0tB6cGIjNr7sOjKxkBbmtXLyJFR/ dwLKJUq2w8cNVbClFB6VCfyQG/jEvuRowpfw9s+BHdomVrktzX+b3FfaarLJ2PI6v1X7 UTAUmIkyqn2ATCsGR65kCPQz2GXOd4WAYsVgM1Eap437+Db0ZqElxK0W99bNc8m2odOG S4+0NEJESCF6DGikOm/raqE4uQ9PpWabADd65uxA4jq2qTrojRFVF2sI0ZmsNt8A29gK HXTw== X-Gm-Message-State: AHPjjUjE6P2TpPkySS4GaQj65ostPY5lOk/JAYXD/1xe+SNa+FFCOmbJ Spj4dRBXYNSLxtVStT8pLcAZyHARZCc= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AOwi7QDEBoZuufiwkQkLuanH3PpuoQMTC4oGajKVBG36bjGdG/oc2uYVEg/sfAxV7QxDkqu9Pm/msQ== X-Received: by 10.25.150.213 with SMTP id y204mr2026715lfd.91.1506766235595; Sat, 30 Sep 2017 03:10:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (mobile-access-5d6a60-234.dhcp.inet.fi. [93.106.96.234]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id a197sm832883lfe.95.2017.09.30.03.10.34 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-CHACHA20-POLY1305 bits=256/256); Sat, 30 Sep 2017 03:10:34 -0700 (PDT) From: Jani Nikula To: William Casarin , notmuch@notmuchmail.org Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/6] Sort by from and subject In-Reply-To: <20170926053547.18564-1-jb55@jb55.com> References: <20170926053547.18564-1-jb55@jb55.com> Date: Sat, 30 Sep 2017 13:10:31 +0300 Message-ID: <87r2uoqyy0.fsf@nikula.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-BeenThere: notmuch@notmuchmail.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Use and development of the notmuch mail system." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 30 Sep 2017 10:10:38 -0000 On Mon, 25 Sep 2017, William Casarin wrote: > This patch series replaces my original set[1]. I've been using this > extensivly for about 3 weeks now and I'm pretty happy with it. I've > added the ability to change sort-order on the fly with the O key > binding. I think there are two considerations here: First, is this something we want to have? Is this generally useful? There's still the issue of From: and Subject: needing more heuristic for useful sorting that I mentioned in id:87efrm70ai.fsf@nikula.org. Second, if we decide we want this, IMHO the interfaces (both human and the lib) need to split the sort key and sort order from the start. Fixing it later on is not going to be fun. BR, Jani.