From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mp2 ([2001:41d0:2:4a6f::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by ms0.migadu.com with LMTPS id yOxiKUQXGGGhBQAAgWs5BA (envelope-from ) for ; Sat, 14 Aug 2021 21:19:32 +0200 Received: from aspmx1.migadu.com ([2001:41d0:2:4a6f::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by mp2 with LMTPS id aKP3JEQXGGFVEwAAB5/wlQ (envelope-from ) for ; Sat, 14 Aug 2021 19:19:32 +0000 Received: from mail.notmuchmail.org (nmbug.tethera.net [144.217.243.247]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by aspmx1.migadu.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A01CB12A61 for ; Sat, 14 Aug 2021 21:19:31 +0200 (CEST) Received: from nmbug.tethera.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.notmuchmail.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8942B1FB66; Sat, 14 Aug 2021 15:19:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from fethera.tethera.net (fethera.tethera.net [IPv6:2607:5300:60:c5::1]) by mail.notmuchmail.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DDD431FB5A for ; Sat, 14 Aug 2021 15:19:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: by fethera.tethera.net (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 60B0A5FD5C; Sat, 14 Aug 2021 15:19:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: (nullmailer pid 1485490 invoked by uid 1000); Sat, 14 Aug 2021 19:19:18 -0000 From: David Bremner To: YUE Daian , notmuch@notmuchmail.org Subject: Re: BUG: Backward compatibility breakage by --sort argument In-Reply-To: <87k0kogjbm.fsf@home.i-did-not-set--mail-host-address--so-tickle-me> References: <87k0kogjbm.fsf@home.i-did-not-set--mail-host-address--so-tickle-me> Date: Sat, 14 Aug 2021 12:19:18 -0700 Message-ID: <87r1ev96mh.fsf@tethera.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID-Hash: GSKPMQ3E3QOBFY4ML4MY5XKXTVKHFGBJ X-Message-ID-Hash: GSKPMQ3E3QOBFY4ML4MY5XKXTVKHFGBJ X-MailFrom: david@tethera.net X-Mailman-Rule-Misses: dmarc-mitigation; no-senders; approved; emergency; loop; banned-address; member-moderation; header-match-notmuch.notmuchmail.org-0; nonmember-moderation; administrivia; implicit-dest; max-recipients; max-size; news-moderation; no-subject; suspicious-header X-Mailman-Version: 3.2.1 Precedence: list List-Id: "Use and development of the notmuch mail system." List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yhetil.org; s=key1; t=1628968772; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references:list-id:list-help: list-unsubscribe:list-subscribe:list-post; bh=oryLBpWwo34pi8zrfoiBcGDBZYqwHs7/BCDpoGdOhhQ=; b=nQFITdMiffCPBOsfVKoq8+/noxXc6P2nsLunhW3viiHCHiFm4GvIAFk7iNobVF8SIk0i3s Ic4V61bhdYO0YFYHpfcszCylsDMyOraopMkYEezjCseHf1P8etCRXJHZeHE4sGnHOh36Yv egieY7JRvXZwwRgDCB8HeMRydPy9tuZddXbZ9AnGW/IWSI3Pz/KGeiZ0WlVtPEguQq/nVi uYZQ+CgFDm0PlwaGguZV4pzCtkKOUqnARBLvS/MCZkCxTVwm6PCtLCa/Y0c8crOgJmOAi7 POqAcYM83Q1Q3do9cjAHfeBCvaMtYm15QhwpxsePt2uRZf03/UZdmXV53r+h7A== ARC-Seal: i=1; s=key1; d=yhetil.org; t=1628968772; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=LAQl2fDP1zYf7TZ5IRKOS5Tafal01/zZZuqi2aDS869WhiIbXGK3grBKs/1v9b37Xp/VtG bylXfsDTxTvT2bdpGTC/S0k/1PvERnJW5+0aJLc4zJmcNYOpgG2yTDh9oIOQuq2AgIPtL6 FejVW8a/sm7Jizx7Xul6Orf5EHR6y78LVzMzy9qP5QFY9jpYxQkkmjDpwv4aqKas3vBFmC nUFdxa39Zf7XFG2GDJytlRIsHoZSjV4nh1oG0gnk/26OS9GAqNqKVRKGRKOuKKsxw8sAnI h0q/ELk8aTRQD3puEOcGa+0TO6Yr1ZUglHminxrcYqziHNMhdvofwmYir3whVg== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of notmuch-bounces@notmuchmail.org designates 144.217.243.247 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=notmuch-bounces@notmuchmail.org X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -2.03 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of notmuch-bounces@notmuchmail.org designates 144.217.243.247 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=notmuch-bounces@notmuchmail.org X-Migadu-Queue-Id: A01CB12A61 X-Spam-Score: -2.03 X-Migadu-Scanner: scn0.migadu.com X-TUID: TheWf3+Xg/Ya YUE Daian writes: > Hi Notmuch mail list, > > I noticed that the Emacs notmuch tree stopped working after a recent (?) > upgrade. > I think the most we could do is have notmuch-emacs print a more informative message telling the user to upgrade notmuch (patches for that would be welcome; I haven't decided if it makes sense to bump the notmuch schema version). Quoting https://melpa.org/#/notmuch Note for MELPA users (and others tracking the development version of notmuch-emacs): This emacs package needs a fairly closely matched version of the notmuch program. If you use the MELPA version of notmuch.el (as opposed to MELPA stable), you should be prepared to track the master development branch (i.e. build from git) for the notmuch program as well. Upgrading notmuch-emacs too far beyond the notmuch program can CAUSE YOUR EMAIL TO STOP WORKING. TL;DR: notmuch-emacs from MELPA and notmuch from distro packages is NOT SUPPORTED.