From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mp1 ([2001:41d0:2:4a6f::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by ms11 with LMTPS id ELSvE6efqV5hdwAA0tVLHw (envelope-from ) for ; Wed, 29 Apr 2020 15:39:19 +0000 Received: from aspmx1.migadu.com ([2001:41d0:2:4a6f::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by mp1 with LMTPS id EMB9G7CfqV4YFgAAbx9fmQ (envelope-from ) for ; Wed, 29 Apr 2020 15:39:28 +0000 Received: from arlo.cworth.org (arlo.cworth.org [50.126.95.6]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by aspmx1.migadu.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 936EE9409EE for ; Wed, 29 Apr 2020 15:39:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by arlo.cworth.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 899136DE10D9; Wed, 29 Apr 2020 08:39:21 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at cworth.org Received: from arlo.cworth.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (arlo.cworth.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id l44FvAkHcihU; Wed, 29 Apr 2020 08:39:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from arlo.cworth.org (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by arlo.cworth.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 526D96DE102B; Wed, 29 Apr 2020 08:39:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by arlo.cworth.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E20A6DE102B for ; Wed, 29 Apr 2020 08:39:17 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at cworth.org Received: from arlo.cworth.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (arlo.cworth.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id aNmbPFL396j2 for ; Wed, 29 Apr 2020 08:39:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fethera.tethera.net (fethera.tethera.net [198.245.60.197]) by arlo.cworth.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 68B366DE0EB5 for ; Wed, 29 Apr 2020 08:39:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from remotemail by fethera.tethera.net with local (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1jTono-0001Rb-Mb; Wed, 29 Apr 2020 11:39:12 -0400 Received: (nullmailer pid 28156 invoked by uid 1000); Wed, 29 Apr 2020 15:39:11 -0000 From: David Bremner To: Daniel Kahn Gillmor , Jani Nikula Subject: Re: Inconsistencies in handling command flags: `--flag=value` different than `--flag value` In-Reply-To: References: <87imhk95oc.fsf@tethera.net> <87k120x0wh.fsf@fifthhorseman.net> <87blnbvxx4.fsf@fifthhorseman.net> Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2020 12:39:11 -0300 Message-ID: <87pnbql2sg.fsf@tethera.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-BeenThere: notmuch@notmuchmail.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Use and development of the notmuch mail system." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: notmuch@notmuchmail.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: notmuch-bounces@notmuchmail.org Sender: "notmuch" X-Scanner: scn0 X-Spam-Score: -1.01 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of notmuch-bounces@notmuchmail.org designates 50.126.95.6 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=notmuch-bounces@notmuchmail.org X-Scan-Result: default: False [-1.01 / 13.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; GENERIC_REPUTATION(0.00)[-0.46235846762744]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+a:c]; IP_REPUTATION_HAM(0.00)[asn: 27017(-0.18), country: US(-0.00), ip: 50.126.95.6(-0.46)]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[notmuch@notmuchmail.org]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[tethera.net]; HAS_LIST_UNSUB(-0.01)[]; DNSWL_BLOCKED(0.00)[50.126.95.6:from]; URIBL_BLOCKED(0.00)[notmuchmail.org:email,iki.fi:email]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; MX_GOOD(-0.50)[cached: notmuchmail.org]; FORGED_SENDER_MAILLIST(0.00)[]; DWL_DNSWL_FAIL(0.00)[50.126.95.6:server fail]; MAILLIST(-0.20)[mailman]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:27017, ipnet:50.126.64.0/18, country:US]; RCVD_COUNT_SEVEN(0.00)[8]; FROM_NEQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[david@tethera.net,notmuch-bounces@notmuchmail.org] X-TUID: qmHtWPDo0td3 Tomi Ollila writes: > On Tue, Apr 28 2020, Daniel Kahn Gillmor wrote: > >> >> One final way we could normalize everything and make it less >> idiosyncratic, with shorter, simpler man pages: deprecate and then drop >> the --booloption/--no-booloption mechanisms, requiring --booloption=true >> or --booloption=false instead. Once they're dropped, allow whitespace >> between "--booloption true" and "--booloption false" just like every >> other type of option. > > I must say, being it perhaps slightly inconvenient to the user, that > this is IMO the best option, and just allowing 'true' and 'false' > (case-sensitively). Least chance to work how used did not expected... > I guess I'm a bit leery of removing UI features that presumably at least some people rely on. It's pretty upsetting to have sofware break one's muscle memory. d