From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mp2 ([2001:41d0:2:4a6f::]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by ms0.migadu.com with LMTPS id IKBQIbQwiWAhdAAAgWs5BA (envelope-from ) for ; Wed, 28 Apr 2021 11:53:56 +0200 Received: from aspmx1.migadu.com ([2001:41d0:2:4a6f::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by mp2 with LMTPS id SIALHbQwiWArQQAAB5/wlQ (envelope-from ) for ; Wed, 28 Apr 2021 09:53:56 +0000 Received: from mail.notmuchmail.org (nmbug.tethera.net [144.217.243.247]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by aspmx1.migadu.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 113DB204AC for ; Wed, 28 Apr 2021 11:53:56 +0200 (CEST) Received: from nmbug.tethera.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.notmuchmail.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3637C27167; Wed, 28 Apr 2021 05:53:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from fethera.tethera.net (fethera.tethera.net [IPv6:2607:5300:60:c5::1]) by mail.notmuchmail.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9687B1FAB5 for ; Wed, 28 Apr 2021 05:53:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: by fethera.tethera.net (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 1F5D960819; Wed, 28 Apr 2021 05:53:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: (nullmailer pid 3352436 invoked by uid 1000); Wed, 28 Apr 2021 09:53:47 -0000 From: David Bremner To: Michael J Gruber , Alexander Adolf , notmuch@notmuchmail.org Subject: Re: Two perceived query language imbalances In-Reply-To: <161952732917.12126.15004755786676144921.git@grubix.eu> References: <87lf992o99.fsf@tethera.net> <161952732917.12126.15004755786676144921.git@grubix.eu> Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2021 06:53:47 -0300 Message-ID: <87pmyeraz8.fsf@tethera.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID-Hash: HVMQK4Q3X2RBXNHHPFBJQYVUWLK43FZX X-Message-ID-Hash: HVMQK4Q3X2RBXNHHPFBJQYVUWLK43FZX X-MailFrom: david@tethera.net X-Mailman-Rule-Misses: dmarc-mitigation; no-senders; approved; emergency; loop; banned-address; member-moderation; header-match-notmuch.notmuchmail.org-0; nonmember-moderation; administrivia; implicit-dest; max-recipients; max-size; news-moderation; no-subject; suspicious-header X-Mailman-Version: 3.2.1 Precedence: list List-Id: "Use and development of the notmuch mail system." List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yhetil.org; s=key1; t=1619603636; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references:list-id:list-help: list-unsubscribe:list-subscribe:list-post; bh=1a2MVDH0WOm+IL3CG9hZBomv6WkdXWggNf55sOhvBas=; b=fGTWdpKVM5GE+SmHdA/KbGMjbQ25tOpvUEja7VbqVDI+AugkocLtKMKBchLaKo2UoPWVEg /Dk5y2xmZHrgHfrAJLgrwyML05bblwd16w0pndEgGfG9OhjDRiOh0eRDS8+F4m/H5QfG8v CNSH9f/OKFpnPw5+4xQmmkM6JP1yQ3ZQy8Mst+cagQz1pnBgFh+9xbusaaGRBvgH/dKy1F GepfwBiGzuhzQ1GWorNnOMPwx1tBp5two6WiPpWtQFrdvd9b5te/PfodL6LIAVc6biDRto XuxOEmRQTl2jGNBGqv6LaDP+pEZTGg/eBKYYDHuWN50RXKhXGMW/71FUMYoo1A== ARC-Seal: i=1; s=key1; d=yhetil.org; t=1619603636; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=bbsY37ZGPOmI981ATO2wwigkQSOkhpU5jqOIiE1FBzqryv5zWdO/UXysLzYyHNI586oJpU tgHhHdz9O9uU0niMofKbXQJcL7TkpVRSB84+NQBEmpVzXXIQAfIuE+O8qMlX9ZPSzMIXDI H0Q1UmL5fI3Tb2oJQZ116yMIAJm9F4kka88GyONvVSYcN2U4o2C5uSXW2ehxmEWKIXsSOC 50FJ02tUSberlhh2ZwSF1an+6KaKPGoWZJgWGV1+w/7pDayxKiIUHYWQi1u4lGWv4d/KQn 1NGU0T4y/N34SRcyAjFcrFyp7lIQEo27vqb8RLd75ot/2HYVO3QMfzedL92W2g== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of notmuch-bounces@notmuchmail.org designates 144.217.243.247 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=notmuch-bounces@notmuchmail.org X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -2.14 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of notmuch-bounces@notmuchmail.org designates 144.217.243.247 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=notmuch-bounces@notmuchmail.org X-Migadu-Queue-Id: 113DB204AC X-Spam-Score: -2.14 X-Migadu-Scanner: scn0.migadu.com X-TUID: e/m4Agq/GX4a Michael J Gruber writes: > > In that case, I suggest that `notmuch search --output=messages` outputs > message ids in the form `mid:...`, as well. Users can discover > `--output=messages` from command completion and could learn the "right" > search prefix from the command output. > In fact that's the kind of thing where we did not want to change the function of id:. There is some weird corner cases because /foo/ is (probably) a valid message-id.