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From: Daniel Kahn Gillmor <dkg@fifthhorseman.net>
To: David Bremner <david@tethera.net>,
	Notmuch Mail <notmuch@notmuchmail.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 03/18] crypto: use stashed session-key properties for decryption, if available
Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2017 21:54:59 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87mv3px8wc.fsf@fifthhorseman.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87r2t19fov.fsf@tethera.net>

Hi Bremner--

Thanks for the review!

On Tue 2017-11-14 09:02:08 -0400, David Bremner wrote:

> Since you wrote this, I've deprecated GMime 2.6. I'm not sure that
> changes anything here, but seems worth mentioning

well, i'm happy to hear that -- i've got no problem with deprecating
GMime 2.6, and would be fine with maintaining GMime 3.0 in
stretch-backports if that would make you feel more comfortable about the
decision.

Still, I'll be kind of bummed to have to rewrite this series to strip
out the 2.6 support: i originally wrote it only with 3.0 support, and
then went back in and added 2.6 support because at the time, you didn't
want to deprecate 2.6 :( our coding cadence isn't very well synced :/

> Its a nitpick, but I don't really understand/like including = with the
> property name.  That will break, e.g. for anyone attempting to use it
> from the API.

I don't mind changing the documentation to use ``session-key`` instead
of ``session-key=``.  *shrug*

> The way the diff works out, I was pretty confused by seeing several
> "wrong" calls to _notmuch_crypto_decrypt before the actual change. It
> would be nice to telegraph that somehow, perhaps in the commit message.

sure, i can add to the commit message that _notmuch_crypto_decrypt is
growing a new parameter.

> Personally I would be fine with (and probably happier) only supporting
> new features when using gmime-3.0.  Debugging crypto related stuff is
> always hard (see recent discussion about _mime_node_create, where we
> still don't know what's wrong, and are just papering over the problem),
> and it seems worth striving for simplicity as much as possible.  I also
> don't know how motivated gmime upstream is to fix bugs in 2.6; I could
> certainly understand if the answer was "not very".

I believe the answer is "not very" -- but if there are serious bugs (i
don't think we've talked about any of this stuff as bugs in gmime) then
we should probably try to raise them with him.

> There is, by the way, a function notmuch_built_with that can be used to
> introspect the library as to what optional features it is built
> with. It's used in notmuch_config to report back to the user about the
> presence of optional features.

Is there any naming convention for these features?  do you want me to
add a "session-key" label with a future revision of this branch?  or are
you asking for something else?

    --dkg

  reply	other threads:[~2017-11-14 13:59 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 47+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-10-25  6:51 Stashed session keys Daniel Kahn Gillmor
2017-10-25  6:51 ` [PATCH 01/18] mime-node: handle decrypt_result more safely Daniel Kahn Gillmor
2017-10-25  6:51 ` [PATCH 02/18] crypto: add _notmuch_crypto_decrypt wrapper function Daniel Kahn Gillmor
2017-10-25  6:51 ` [PATCH 03/18] crypto: use stashed session-key properties for decryption, if available Daniel Kahn Gillmor
2017-10-26 19:00   ` Daniel Kahn Gillmor
2017-11-14 13:02   ` David Bremner
2017-11-14 13:54     ` Daniel Kahn Gillmor [this message]
2017-11-15 12:59       ` David Bremner
2017-10-25  6:51 ` [PATCH 04/18] test/corpora: add an encrypted message for index decryption tests Daniel Kahn Gillmor
2017-10-25  6:51 ` [PATCH 05/18] crypto: Test restore of cleartext index from stashed session keys Daniel Kahn Gillmor
2017-11-14 13:13   ` David Bremner
2017-11-14 13:58     ` Daniel Kahn Gillmor
2017-11-14 14:27       ` David Bremner
2017-10-25  6:51 ` [PATCH 06/18] lib: convert notmuch decryption policy to an enum Daniel Kahn Gillmor
2017-10-25  6:51 ` [PATCH 07/18] crypto: new decryption policy "auto" Daniel Kahn Gillmor
2017-11-11 23:14   ` Jameson Graef Rollins
2017-11-12  3:39     ` Daniel Kahn Gillmor
2017-11-12 15:26       ` Jameson Graef Rollins
2017-11-14 13:21   ` David Bremner
2017-10-25  6:51 ` [PATCH 08/18] cli/reply: use decryption policy "auto" by default Daniel Kahn Gillmor
2017-10-25  6:51 ` [PATCH 09/18] cli/show: " Daniel Kahn Gillmor
2017-10-25  6:51 ` [PATCH 10/18] cli/show, reply: document use of stashed session keys in notmuch-properties Daniel Kahn Gillmor
2017-10-25  6:51 ` [PATCH 11/18] cli/new, insert, reindex: update documentation for --try-decrypt=auto Daniel Kahn Gillmor
2017-11-15 20:02   ` David Bremner
2017-10-25  6:51 ` [PATCH 12/18] crypto: record whether an actual decryption attempt happened Daniel Kahn Gillmor
2017-10-25  6:51 ` [PATCH 13/18] cli/new, insert, reindex: change index.try_decrypt to "auto" by default Daniel Kahn Gillmor
2017-11-16 12:40   ` David Bremner
2017-11-30  6:16     ` Daniel Kahn Gillmor
2017-10-25  6:51 ` [PATCH 14/18] cli/reindex: destroy stashed session keys when --try-decrypt=false Daniel Kahn Gillmor
2017-10-25  6:52 ` [PATCH 15/18] crypto: actually stash session keys when try-decrypt=true Daniel Kahn Gillmor
2017-11-16 12:53   ` David Bremner
2017-11-30 15:57     ` Daniel Kahn Gillmor
2017-12-02  1:56       ` David Bremner
2017-10-25  6:52 ` [PATCH 16/18] crypto: add --try-decrypt=nostash to avoid stashing session keys Daniel Kahn Gillmor
2017-10-25 14:46   ` Daniel Kahn Gillmor
2017-11-16 13:02   ` David Bremner
2017-10-25  6:52 ` [PATCH 17/18] docs: clean up documentation about decryption policies Daniel Kahn Gillmor
2017-10-25  6:52 ` [PATCH 18/18] python: add try_decrypt argument to Database.index_file() Daniel Kahn Gillmor
2017-11-16 13:06   ` David Bremner
2017-11-30 15:58     ` Daniel Kahn Gillmor
2017-11-11  7:56 ` Stashed session keys Daniel Kahn Gillmor
2017-11-11 23:31 ` Jameson Graef Rollins
2017-11-12  3:51   ` Daniel Kahn Gillmor
2017-11-12 15:15     ` Jameson Graef Rollins
2017-11-12 18:51     ` Daniel Kahn Gillmor
2017-11-15 22:41 ` meskio
2017-11-16 16:03   ` Daniel Kahn Gillmor

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