From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by olra.theworths.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23E02431FB6 for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2011 02:56:07 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at olra.theworths.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[none] autolearn=disabled Received: from olra.theworths.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (olra.theworths.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id oa5gD6xxPqPF for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2011 02:56:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-wy0-f181.google.com (mail-wy0-f181.google.com [74.125.82.181]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by olra.theworths.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 157BC431FB5 for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2011 02:56:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: by wyi11 with SMTP id 11so5328960wyi.26 for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2011 02:56:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.227.140.77 with SMTP id h13mr4740649wbu.217.1303120562646; Mon, 18 Apr 2011 02:56:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (6.159-240-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be [81.240.159.6]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id w12sm3147024wby.41.2011.04.18.02.56.00 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Mon, 18 Apr 2011 02:56:01 -0700 (PDT) From: Pieter Praet To: Xavier Maillard , Kan-Ru Chen , notmuch@notmuchmail.org Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2] emacs: notmuch-hello: Add "n" and "p" to mod map In-Reply-To: References: <1280195325-9066-1-git-send-email-kanru@kanru.info> <1280195325-9066-3-git-send-email-kanru@kanru.info> <87lizatjik.fsf@A7GMS.i-did-not-set--mail-host-address--so-tickle-me> User-Agent: Notmuch/0.5-87-g30203d7 (http://notmuchmail.org) Emacs/23.1.50.1 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2011 11:55:59 +0200 Message-ID: <87liz7yjbk.fsf@A7GMS.i-did-not-set--mail-host-address--so-tickle-me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-BeenThere: notmuch@notmuchmail.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: "Use and development of the notmuch mail system." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2011 09:56:07 -0000 On Mon, 18 Apr 2011 09:36:45 +0200, Xavier Maillard wrote: > > Sounds logical in theory, but in practice, you'll soon get stuck > > spamming "nnnnnpppnwtf" in the search field. > > > > That, and TAB/S-TAB feels more natural. > > More natural than what exactly ? [...] More natural than n/p (as is the subject of the patch), but that's a matter of opinion. > [...] Anyway, that would not hurt to add 'n' > and 'p' as another way to navigate through widgets in my opinion > (whatsmore that's how customize also works -i.e navigation done both > with TAB/S-TAB and n/p) > > /Xavier Again a matter of opinion, but customize isn't exactly a shining example of a UI, is it ? Not surprising though, considering a general lack of UI is one of Emacs' most prominent selling points. And let's face it: Once you get stuck in a text widget, you'll have to revert to using TAB/S-TAB anyway. Aside from all that, you're right in that it wouldn't hurt to add them. Not unless you subscribe to the Suck Less Philosophy [1]. I'd say we've thoroughly established that today's keyword is "opinion", and I have no reason to disrespect yours, so let's leave it at that :D Peace -Pieter [1] http://suckless.org/manifest/