From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by olra.theworths.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E36F429E25 for ; Sat, 29 Oct 2011 17:45:08 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at olra.theworths.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.29 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.29 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, T_MIME_NO_TEXT=0.01] autolearn=disabled Received: from olra.theworths.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (olra.theworths.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Y+pPim2G2bE6 for ; Sat, 29 Oct 2011 17:45:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from outgoing-mail.its.caltech.edu (outgoing-mail.its.caltech.edu [131.215.239.19]) by olra.theworths.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1AA96431FB6 for ; Sat, 29 Oct 2011 17:45:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from earth-doxen.imss.caltech.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by earth-doxen-postvirus (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6CF0766E0243; Sat, 29 Oct 2011 17:45:03 -0700 (PDT) X-Spam-Scanned: at Caltech-IMSS on earth-doxen by amavisd-new Received: from finestructure.net (cpe-76-174-136-149.socal.res.rr.com [76.174.136.149]) (Authenticated sender: jrollins) by earth-doxen-submit (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B06266E01E8; Sat, 29 Oct 2011 17:44:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: by finestructure.net (Postfix, from userid 1000) id EEFED6DE; Sat, 29 Oct 2011 17:44:58 -0700 (PDT) From: Jameson Graef Rollins To: David Bremner , notmuch@notmuchmail.org Subject: Re: Experimental Tag Sharing In-Reply-To: <1319906707-10141-1-git-send-email-david@tethera.net> References: <1319857491-12298-5-git-send-email-david@tethera.net> <1319906707-10141-1-git-send-email-david@tethera.net> User-Agent: Notmuch/0.9-24-g2fd0ca5 (http://notmuchmail.org) Emacs/23.3.1 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) Date: Sat, 29 Oct 2011 17:44:56 -0700 Message-ID: <87lis3tiif.fsf@servo.finestructure.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="=-=-="; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-BeenThere: notmuch@notmuchmail.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: "Use and development of the notmuch mail system." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 30 Oct 2011 00:45:08 -0000 --=-=-= Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, 29 Oct 2011 13:45:06 -0300, David Bremner wrote: > OK, here is my rough and ready attempt at tag sharing. I figure we > can smooth out the rough edges if/when we agree on a set of tags and > preferably on an on-disk format. Great! Thank you so much for working on this, David. This is very exciting work. Comments below. > How to play? >=20 > - - Apply all the patches in this thread (starting > id:"1319383133-11006-1-git-send-email-david@tethera.net") These patches did not apply cleanly for me from the list. I was able to get them from bremner's "nmbug" branch [0], though. [0] git://pivot.cs.unb.ca/git/notmuch > $ nmbug dump > $ cd $HOME/.nmbug && git add tags && git commit This last command seems to be included in nmbug as "commit". Fwiw, I don't like having to do two separate operations for dump and commit. Could they be merged into a single operation? > now you have to get the changes into the "master" repo. I think > hosting this on git.notmuchmail.org in a seperate repo will make > sense, but for now, if you want to participate in the experiment, send > me your public key (ideally in a gpg signed mail, but if not, oh well),=20 > and you can push to my repo at >=20 > git@pivot.cs.unb.ca:pub/nmbug While I think having a central shared tag repo is ok to get started, I would really like to see this work in a distributed way. I don't think it's impossible to extend this model you have here to work in a distributed way, though, so that will be something good to work on down the line. > Probably the most crucial thing is that we agree on some set of tags. > Here is the set of tags I am working with (output from=20 > notmuch search --output=3Dtags "*" | grep ^notmuch::=20 > ) >=20 > notmuch::bug is a bug report > notmuch::feature provides a new feature > notmuch::fix fixes a bug > notmuch::obsolete replaced by some other patch > notmuch::patch=09=09=20=20=20=20=20 > notmuch::portability improves portability > notmuch::pushed is pushed to master > notmuch::review is a review > notmuch::reviewed has been (well reviewed) > notmuch::test provides a new test/or improves testing >=20 > The prefix "notmuch::" is hardcoded into the script, but everything > else is easy to change with the usual notmuch operations. Of course > we can change the prefix too. I decided on :: because it needed less > escaping. I think these are a fine set to start with. It might be nice to let the user configure what prefix they use (ie. what goes before the "::" (currently "notmuch")). Does this system support the removing of tags? I guess I need to see the documentation for the restore --match option... It's too bad there's not a way to do scoped tag searches in notmuch (ie. notmuch search tag:"notmuch::*"). Any idea how hard it would be to support something like that? > On think I'm not sure about is how to handle ideas like "voting", and > "signing off" with tags. I suspect we can come up with some > conventions like "notmuch::review1", or > "notmuch::vote1".."notmuch::vote5". But maybe people have less kludgy > ideas. What issue are you trying to solve here? Whatever it is, I don't think I like enumerating tags as the solution. Again, thanks so much for working on this, David. This is going to be very cool. I really look forward to fleshing it out, and using it! jamie. --=-=-= Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) iQIcBAEBCAAGBQJOrJ4IAAoJEO00zqvie6q80S0P/RDECS7Ji8nf3bMA41HJ1OL7 rk8spKV6sHs0aClXYqaG3JTOWcj9iEVEcHNjPw/S3O9fowksn8YFRwx+0HresyNn aCuLC/2Np385i24S4MpoTGTqfDTMD/fUX/BFbdQUUFs0Nq9o5RuxH9nyzGbuHQo1 A6vFfkxNlnYRN5QF9QdXKNWa9nLY9DQ9rTd8GhHfUxNLAfpF8t7O2a0ML0W2B7hH xa+5vJ3+mbiqMQglYbRSOwabRnlT6tEBL2uKyAB++i6WDONWL1zdV6Nqa4NRogVQ TBPwYtEUPZ3b5DJ/0MG+KzSnRRV2enB1ydhAb4afBPCKnc4kvl2ucNoDYjZu1WPP 3CsCqJkGpjSWccofwDTWgBIRmP25ME2zuqF+RfDddBP80x5MBxKY1pM8LpcClaRM 4HzBm3h7AlRrmqxHD9iI08/YqpMA1qvAiDFxfWB4CyYD8DS9OZK1q6FIFrj0SAbo rngAfFVbq6tAOTODQtIyWv/169V7KTHnNQlqtMm62Q6JxQVOdLGGCP2+1eYZViPB NWqihDL0zN1fZzb+xB3R3pPxYi4ffTxtjgul2PSyp10Kh9pjVqQkgGcJn2vJxyzh c2K90wz3yqbB/LzxIkt52UT/7mD8LbKau4gF/FDK7DYGU7yO2gnU2NcbTcDWS9px JfKNHWkNU17Zb95SNhh5 =jh2K -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-=-=--