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From: Carl Worth <cworth@cworth.org>
To: Michael Alan Dorman <mdorman@ironicdesign.com>, notmuch@notmuchmail.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH (rebased)] Handle message renames in mail spool
Date: Fri, 04 Dec 2009 16:32:06 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87iqcmdzw9.fsf@yoom.home.cworth.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20091204140946.644243f0@vimes.local>

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On Fri, 4 Dec 2009 14:09:46 -0500, Michael Alan Dorman <mdorman@ironicdesign.com> wrote:
> Now, if you have an MTA that does duplicate suppression based on
> message-id, you probably won't see the copy of a message that went to
> the list if you're cc:'d on it because the direct copy (sans list-id
> header) is likely to arrive first.
> 
> I would argue that that's a feature not a bug---the sender, at least,
> hopes you will give it closer scrutiny because you were CC:'d.  They're
> trying to bring it to your attention.

Sure, giving it closer scrutiny is good. But if I expect a search like:

	tag:lkml

to match all of my mail that came through the mailing list, but it
actually *misses* mail where the sender wanted me to give extra
scrutiny, then that's a big failure.

> Besides, in notmuch, what's the difference going to be?  It'll still be
> threaded the same, etc., but you'd be able to tell that this one came
> to you rather than through the list, no?

The difference is whether the message is found in a search, (see above).

> (I'm waiting for Debian packages, lazy bastard that I am, so I'm
> guessing on that)

Yeah, I'll get to that (real soon now, I promise.)

> On the linux-kernel list, l-k often isn't in the to: field---or does
> notmuch also index the cc: as to:?  If it does, this could work; if
> not, FAIL.

Yes. In notmuch, all recipient fields, (even Bcc: if a mail happens to
hit your mail store with that intact), all get indexed to a single "to"
prefix. My rationale is that when reading a message it's often very
useful to see whether I was addresses specifically or just CC'ed. But
when _searching_ for a message, it's too fragile to have to guess
whether the recipient was on the To: or CC: header (and too painful to
always type (to:me@example.com or cc:me@example.com).

-Carl

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  reply	other threads:[~2009-12-05  0:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-11-26 20:23 [PATCH] Handle message renames in mail spool Mikhail Gusarov
2009-12-02 21:15 ` [PATCH (rebased)] " Mikhail Gusarov
2009-12-04  0:45   ` Carl Worth
2009-12-04 13:55     ` david
2009-12-04 18:05       ` Carl Worth
2009-12-04 18:07         ` Mikhail Gusarov
2009-12-04 18:35           ` Carl Worth
2009-12-04 18:42             ` Mikhail Gusarov
2009-12-04 19:09             ` Michael Alan Dorman
2009-12-05  0:32               ` Carl Worth [this message]
2009-12-05  0:39               ` Carl Worth
2009-12-05  0:47                 ` Mikhail Gusarov
2009-12-05  8:51                 ` Marten Veldthuis
2009-12-05 22:48                   ` Carl Worth
2009-12-16 23:51             ` Bdale Garbee
2009-12-17  0:01               ` Mikhail Gusarov
2009-12-17  2:57                 ` Bdale Garbee
2009-12-17  1:36               ` Michael Alan Dorman
2009-12-04 18:52           ` Michael Alan Dorman
2009-12-04 18:55             ` Mikhail Gusarov
2009-12-04 19:40               ` Michael Alan Dorman

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