From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by olra.theworths.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68558431FBC; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 05:17:05 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at olra.theworths.org Received: from olra.theworths.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (olra.theworths.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id WXMaaFhTwlin; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 05:17:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from cworth.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by olra.theworths.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68824431FAE; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 05:17:04 -0800 (PST) From: Carl Worth To: Mikhail Gusarov , notmuch@notmuchmail.org In-Reply-To: <1258723107-14704-1-git-send-email-dottedmag@dottedmag.net> References: <1258723107-14704-1-git-send-email-dottedmag@dottedmag.net> Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2009 14:16:52 +0100 Message-ID: <87hbso3tmj.fsf@yoom.home.cworth.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: Re: [PATCH] RFC: quiet make X-BeenThere: notmuch@notmuchmail.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: "Use and development of the notmuch mail system." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2009 13:17:05 -0000 On Fri, 20 Nov 2009 19:18:27 +0600, Mikhail Gusarov wrote: > I don't entirely like duplicating every command line in makefile, > so this patch is RFC. Someone with bigger Make-fu than mine probably > knows a better way. Hi Mikhail, Getting a quieter compile out is a great idea. But, you're right that duplicating the command line invocations is a problem. That sets up a fragile system where we'll end up with "make" and "make V=1" actually doing different things. Meanwhile, the feature I've always wanted with systems like this is to document to the user that there's the possibility of adding a "V=1" to the command line to get the full output. Fortunately, I'm sitting next to Chris Wilson right now, and I know that all I need to do is to mention the idea to him, and he'll give us a solution that doesn't duplicate the commands, documents V=1, and will just be a tiny change to our Makefiles. -Carl