From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by olra.theworths.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD51841ED9B for ; Fri, 1 Jul 2011 14:44:40 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at olra.theworths.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.7 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.7 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7] autolearn=disabled Received: from olra.theworths.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (olra.theworths.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id sCYC4GLicNDn for ; Fri, 1 Jul 2011 14:44:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-ww0-f45.google.com (mail-ww0-f45.google.com [74.125.82.45]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by olra.theworths.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0200B41ED98 for ; Fri, 1 Jul 2011 14:44:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: by wwj40 with SMTP id 40so2926455wwj.2 for ; Fri, 01 Jul 2011 14:44:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.227.28.212 with SMTP id n20mr3277388wbc.82.1309556676999; Fri, 01 Jul 2011 14:44:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (49.38-242-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be [81.242.38.49]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id ex2sm2618789wbb.65.2011.07.01.14.44.35 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Fri, 01 Jul 2011 14:44:36 -0700 (PDT) From: Pieter Praet To: Brian May , Notmuch Mail Subject: Re: Preventing the user shooting themself in the foot In-Reply-To: References: <874o377o70.fsf@praet.org> User-Agent: Notmuch/0.5-315-g34bd5eb (http://notmuchmail.org) Emacs/23.1.50.1 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) Date: Fri, 01 Jul 2011 23:44:33 +0200 Message-ID: <87fwmp3cce.fsf@praet.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-BeenThere: notmuch@notmuchmail.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: "Use and development of the notmuch mail system." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 01 Jul 2011 21:44:41 -0000 On Fri, 1 Jul 2011 11:28:10 +1000, Brian May wrote: > On 30 June 2011 17:50, Pieter Praet wrote: > > And AFAIK, "Archive" does *not* mark a message as read in GMail. > > (see previous messages suggesting the inverse) > > gmail will mark all messages in the thread as read when looking at any > part of the thread - so in practical terms whenever I click "Archive" > the entire thread is marked as read - as I always click archive in the > message view. > > Not absolutely convinced this is the best approach. I think it is > important to appreciate the differences that different implementations > have chosen. I was thinking more along the lines of archiving a message from the Inbox (or similar) view, in which the 'unread' state does remain preserved. Marking all messages as read as soon as the thread is opened is a separate issue (and *far* from sensible), but this heavy-handed approach is probably a necessity (as opposed to being a deliberate choice) due to the limitations of its current interface, which Notmuch thankfully doesn't share. > -- > Brian May > _______________________________________________ > notmuch mailing list > notmuch@notmuchmail.org > http://notmuchmail.org/mailman/listinfo/notmuch Peace -- Pieter