From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by olra.theworths.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E51D9429E25 for ; Tue, 20 Dec 2011 17:42:26 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at olra.theworths.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.799 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.799 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7] autolearn=disabled Received: from olra.theworths.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (olra.theworths.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id B8PzcAcxWjyo for ; Tue, 20 Dec 2011 17:42:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-wi0-f181.google.com (mail-wi0-f181.google.com [209.85.212.181]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by olra.theworths.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 126BA431FB6 for ; Tue, 20 Dec 2011 17:42:25 -0800 (PST) Received: by wibhq2 with SMTP id hq2so2254783wib.26 for ; Tue, 20 Dec 2011 17:42:25 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:to:subject:in-reply-to:references:user-agent:date:message-id :mime-version:content-type; bh=xHSZNoRI0+O2hgUEamXRTechjCvtAuyO9waQUe3Avs4=; b=bNTZ+UrhLG2upMnEocNGz4IO6qvdQHd4iQtAdewCJfo2l04sPeQZhI+3Q3mXe/pnKT GIVIGosQIISMvxxmVmV8jT0rabtgUI5Gr71X1qMS2uDNriC8JMBpiay7Gha4WOV6HYmI wiEWpEaf1LqOBWDgdHuxa2d6/DXF9cpxeo6Qg= Received: by 10.180.83.69 with SMTP id o5mr9768269wiy.1.1324431744986; Tue, 20 Dec 2011 17:42:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost ([91.144.186.21]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id dd4sm9400989wib.1.2011.12.20.17.42.23 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Tue, 20 Dec 2011 17:42:24 -0800 (PST) From: Dmitry Kurochkin To: Thomas Jost , David Bremner , notmuch@notmuchmail.org Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 3/4] emacs: rename notmuch-decimal-separator to notmuch-thousands-separator In-Reply-To: <87ehvyahqf.fsf@schnouki.net> References: <87d3cx2t38.fsf@rocinante.cs.unb.ca> <1323797532-597-1-git-send-email-schnouki@schnouki.net> <1323797532-597-4-git-send-email-schnouki@schnouki.net> <87zkets55h.fsf@gmail.com> <878vmcem43.fsf@zancas.localnet> <87fwgksnk4.fsf@gmail.com> <87ehvyahqf.fsf@schnouki.net> User-Agent: Notmuch/0.10.2+96~g74e5ae5 (http://notmuchmail.org) Emacs/23.3.1 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) Date: Wed, 21 Dec 2011 05:41:41 +0400 Message-ID: <87fwgewvje.fsf@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-BeenThere: notmuch@notmuchmail.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: "Use and development of the notmuch mail system." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 21 Dec 2011 01:42:27 -0000 Hi Thomas. On Wed, 21 Dec 2011 01:30:48 +0100, Thomas Jost wrote: > On Fri, 16 Dec 2011 16:34:03 +0400, Dmitry Kurochkin wrote: > > On Fri, 16 Dec 2011 08:29:00 -0400, David Bremner wrote: > > > On Fri, 16 Dec 2011 04:59:22 +0400, Dmitry Kurochkin wrote: > > > > > > > > What do perople think about making the thousands separator a space by > > > > default? > > > > > > > > > > Is that really good for a majority of users? I had never heard of it > > > until now. I know this is hardly scientific, but still... > > > > > > > Well, to me "1 000 000 000" looks better than "1,000,000,000". But I do > > not know about the others. That is why I was asking :) > > That's a complex topic unfortunately. I prefer "1 000 000" too, but many > would prefer "1,000,000", others would prefer "1'000'000", and in India > many would even prefer "1,00,0000" > (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thousands_separator#Examples_of_use). > > The cleanest solution would be to use something that cares about the > LC_NUMERIC environment variable. sprintf() can do such things, but I'm > not aware of any possibility to do that in elisp. > We discussed this on IRC. And, surprisingly, everyone agreed on changing the default to a space in a separate patch. But my other comment for this patch is still relevant: please rename `notmuch-thousands-separator' to `notmuch-hello-thousands-separator'. If you decide to make another patch that changes the default to a space, please add this link [1] to the preamble and a citation: Therefore the space is recommended in the SI/ISO 31-0 standard, and the International Bureau of Weights and Measures states that "for numbers with many digits the digits may be divided into groups of three by a thin space, in order to facilitate reading. Neither dots nor commas are inserted in the spaces between groups of three". Regards, Dmitry [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decimal_separator#Digit_grouping > -- > Thomas/Schnouki