On Mon, May 28 2012, Peter Wang wrote: > % ./notmuch search --format=json --exclude=true -- thread:0000000000009598 tag:unread > [{"thread": "0000000000009598", > "timestamp": 1338231998, > "date_relative": "Today 05:06", > "matched": 1, > "total": 15, > "authors": "Mark Walters| Peter Wang", > "subject": "[PATCH v6 3/6] cli: make --entire-thread=false work for format=json.", > "tags": ["deleted", "draft", "replied", "sent", "unread"]}] > > Here is a thread I participated in. From this, my MUA displays "1/15", > suggesting that there is 1 unread message out of a total of 15. But > upon opening the thread, there are only 11 messages visible: 4 were > drafts (possibly deleted) which have been excluded. To the user, it > looks like some messages went missing. > > Therefore I would like search --output=summary --exclude=true > to report the total number of non-excluded messages. It doesn't need to > be via the "total" field; a new field would be fine. What you have pasted above is --output=json, not --output=summary. The formats are quite different. What are you asking for a change in? But regardless, I don't think I would like to see the changes you suggest. I would like for the thread total to list the total number of messages in the thread, regardless whether they're excluded or not. Same for the tags. I think I want to continue to see if excluded messages are in a returned thread. The desire to hide the excluded messages in the output is why they're marked as hidden/not visible. Think about the excludes as acting on the search itself, and less on the output. We exclude messages from search, but if they show up in a returned thread we at least acknowledge that they're there. jamie.