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From: Jameson Graef Rollins <jrollins@finestructure.net>
To: David Bremner <david@tethera.net>, Jani Nikula <jani@nikula.org>,
	notmuch@notmuchmail.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/6] notmuch cli config changes
Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2013 23:50:11 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87fw12nf7w.fsf@servo.finestructure.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87y5f0fhtd.fsf@zancas.localnet>

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On Thu, Feb 07 2013, David Bremner <david@tethera.net> wrote:
> In my experience the environment variable is somewhat dangerous to use
> while testing. If left set to the wrong value, it can lead the loss of
> tag information.

I have never noticed this to be an issue, but if it is variables can be
applied only at run time as well:

NOTMUCH_CONFIG=/path/to/foo notmuch ....

>> In general, I am a strong advocate of keeping the CLI slim.  IMHO,
>> adding more options makes the interface clunkier, and the manual harder
>> to parse, and I'm against adding things that a normal user would likely
>> never use. 
>
> Well, it's are reasonable heuristic, although I might disagree in
> general where the cutoff for "normal use" is, as I do in this case.

My main point is that shoving every possible thing that can be tweaked
into CLI options is imho a bad idea.  Look at gpg.  The interface is
horrible, and the man page is basically impenetrable because it's so
loaded with options that it's impossible to figure out how to do the one
basic operation you're looking for.

But you're right that I'm making a pretty arbitrary distinction.  The
notmuch CLI already includes options to handle output formatting,
etc. that normal users are probably never going to use in their
infrequent use of the CLI.  In that regard an option to point to a
alternate config file doesn't seem that unreasonable.

I just don't want to see notmuch fall into the same UI black hole that
e.g. gpg did.

jamie.

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  reply	other threads:[~2013-02-12  7:50 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-01-29 21:46 [PATCH 0/6] notmuch cli config changes Jani Nikula
2013-01-29 21:46 ` [PATCH 1/6] cli: keep track of whether the config is newly created Jani Nikula
2013-03-03 16:13   ` David Bremner
2013-01-29 21:46 ` [PATCH 2/6] cli: make notmuch_config_open() "is new" parameter input only Jani Nikula
2013-03-03 16:17   ` David Bremner
2013-01-29 21:46 ` [PATCH 3/6] cli: abstract subcommand finding into a new function Jani Nikula
2013-03-03 16:23   ` David Bremner
2013-01-29 21:46 ` [PATCH 4/6] cli: plug main notmuch command into subcommand machinery Jani Nikula
2013-03-03 16:28   ` David Bremner
2013-01-29 21:46 ` [PATCH 5/6] cli: move config open/close to main() from subcommands Jani Nikula
2013-01-29 21:46 ` [PATCH 6/6] cli: add top level --config=FILE option Jani Nikula
2013-03-03 16:32   ` David Bremner
2013-02-06 17:50 ` [PATCH 0/6] notmuch cli config changes Jameson Graef Rollins
2013-02-07  7:43   ` Jani Nikula
2013-02-07 12:07   ` David Bremner
2013-02-12  7:50     ` Jameson Graef Rollins [this message]
2013-02-12 11:42       ` David Bremner
2013-02-12 16:54         ` Jameson Graef Rollins
2013-02-12 18:53           ` David Bremner
2013-02-13  7:51             ` Mark Walters
2013-02-12 20:06           ` Jani Nikula
2013-03-03 16:36             ` David Bremner

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