From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by arlo.cworth.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 507D66DE02DD for ; Sat, 30 Dec 2017 16:38:15 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at cworth.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[none] autolearn=disabled Received: from arlo.cworth.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (arlo.cworth.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 5Vq0mdpOFBYR for ; Sat, 30 Dec 2017 16:38:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from che.mayfirst.org (che.mayfirst.org [162.247.75.118]) by arlo.cworth.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 738096DE00D2 for ; Sat, 30 Dec 2017 16:38:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from fifthhorseman.net (ool-4356d165.dyn.optonline.net [67.86.209.101]) by che.mayfirst.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 919AFF99A; Sat, 30 Dec 2017 19:38:11 -0500 (EST) Received: by fifthhorseman.net (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 9FDC3203C1; Sat, 30 Dec 2017 19:38:08 -0500 (EST) From: Daniel Kahn Gillmor To: David Bremner , Notmuch Mail Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 3/3] cli/reply: make --decrypt take a keyword In-Reply-To: <87o9mgz7q3.fsf@tethera.net> References: <20171219164055.20778-1-dkg@fifthhorseman.net> <20171219164055.20778-4-dkg@fifthhorseman.net> <874loha4br.fsf@tethera.net> <87k1x6i560.fsf@fifthhorseman.net> <87zi61zjx3.fsf@tethera.net> <87wp15gmp4.fsf@fifthhorseman.net> <87o9mgz7q3.fsf@tethera.net> Date: Sat, 30 Dec 2017 19:38:05 -0500 Message-ID: <87fu7rhguq.fsf@fifthhorseman.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="=-=-="; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-BeenThere: notmuch@notmuchmail.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Use and development of the notmuch mail system." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 31 Dec 2017 00:38:15 -0000 --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat 2017-12-30 09:05:40 -0400, David Bremner wrote: > I need more time to think about this, so I'd rather defer till after the > release in any case.=20 are you saying that you want to defer this whole series until after the release? that would be a real shame, since it would mean we'd have both: notmuch show --decrypt and notmuch new --decrypt=3Dtrue which seems particularly troubling. please let's at least make it a keyword in all cases. > But at some point we collectively (I think? Maybe Jamie and I browbeat > you into it) decided that it was OK for --decrypt=3Dtrue to have context > dependent behaviour. It seems to me that "different things in a > different context" issue already exists. Oh, i'm not saying that "notmuch show --decrypt=3Dtrue" must mean exactly the same thing as "notmuch new --decrypt=3Dtrue" -- i understand that it does not mean the same thing, because the contexts are different. My complaint was that documenting "notmuch show --decrypt=3Dnostash" seems like it introduces confusion around the fact that --decrypt=3Dnostash *is* identical to --decrypt=3Dtrue in one place, and is functionally (significantly) different from --decrypt=3Dtrue in another place. iow: i'm fine with --decrypt=3Dtrue being a coherent policy about message decryption that does different things in different contexts. I think explaining about --decrypt=3Dnostash being the same as that policy in some contexts and different in others is pretty awkward, but if people really want it, i won't block on it, and i look forward to seeing the patches to the documentation. --dkg --=-=-= Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIzBAEBCgAdFiEEDuW+l5KC2AufdUDxzNLtlNIXOekFAlpIMW0ACgkQzNLtlNIX Oel5Dg/9GXJX/IqzY4roA6OS8ru5Hes7bBXpdrEqjFQwG6TPe3bEus5iGkEBEqW4 SVsDXFzmghRefbIdIyG6qi9PLA9waSItTgWdeJMLRITY/809hgiJVgyDwqXfavRj z6cakRQucUDmVhO95gqj5WbWrllNMjmxH15wvBOxMnU3uMPPDeAD7tPDvmQxgijV +7nZTGk467Y41uUS9p5YB9K+YGSHmVCg+JCmJk5tsIzuR/obH6m7j4KglhwIhB0b LBRt9m3K3vm8GjBCgAHlfLDweS4xuT/WKsFq30o8I9NCRhucFfp1CwoHhS1Rtx3O zlj7PceBGxmoypjRwuH4N5wd3PbLX+FpdCbKqlZba/2s0pqYNTVLbe7RIoGvyuXX CCx/TyiYW/8wTzLC07dve7F30s3xh2qOUA8JkBQonh84qgFbx18irDyG5WDtcMbh D8NTn7IAOzITR5y4kOrlqB3LCuKzwtlM04o8EzCdz4NHyZeJHdEic2pjaRe1hxF7 TSpq8lLl9eEIvfEyBnMq7Ba/v4HjyRgwIue6VjM0IFOKYRTVAzoWCloxM4rJWdrD 2+uOwvcObH0WBCVxv1RdYNZ8ya9fTqcsRgvvpQ0dtMMdGyIVlx2fcE4HdrFWjmZw 6hyhVLvQx0j66BSjG+ePo+AncnA9e7onB4Tx9H3cUHzs75UfbRM= =NbTh -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-=-=--