From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by arlo.cworth.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 886816DE0F2E for ; Mon, 25 Feb 2019 15:15:30 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at cworth.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.137 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.137 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.064, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=disabled Received: from arlo.cworth.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (arlo.cworth.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id aG2m6-xqCk78 for ; Mon, 25 Feb 2019 15:15:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from che.mayfirst.org (che.mayfirst.org [162.247.75.118]) by arlo.cworth.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CCA206DE0F0D for ; Mon, 25 Feb 2019 15:15:29 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=ed25519-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=fifthhorseman.net; i=@fifthhorseman.net; q=dns/txt; s=2019; t=1551136528; h=from : to : cc : subject : in-reply-to : references : date : message-id : mime-version : content-type : from; bh=1CqP9l+FNDnc5IT292ERlwWsyFDeftyh26lMl4u7Q5M=; b=u0VtXMNOs5P2eijSW7jZh/YH/2BVXDD7DHMwtDaXF4kOX+KYj49S8sn5 PskVOeg74JZflHWybUbyeCzTCD3hBA== DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=fifthhorseman.net; i=@fifthhorseman.net; q=dns/txt; s=2019rsa; t=1551136528; h=from : to : cc : subject : in-reply-to : references : date : message-id : mime-version : content-type : from; bh=1CqP9l+FNDnc5IT292ERlwWsyFDeftyh26lMl4u7Q5M=; b=CumenWZmT4QKyP8YFQ/SRiwa1PXUgWGJgPe7E1mTVJnyFwr8ZfSL/vm2 erM5obMjTX/D6dtPM5ZzLWGlI4WTiiYeLB1bFNQErC/q6PgnvqGySHyNhh duH1HSn7OUgavnG+7AEMXh9/T/o5Nv05LlXTqt44b8Ewd5gNYQGN5gqobJ EoL4DUP4ar3gThE1ZkDaIutU+SJhl3SEXXLLcnTaEL4yxHfS+/4ShETd31 WTWcDzX8aIeOTPqSEBwKQblPxrzEZnZjHCJfmNWXxpBbwz+kg9bE8rltXT b9x2DG4sfxKqHe/UCwnNhepS/Gi3WIKwr1OhXAEciB/+oV3MJz4uWA== Received: from fifthhorseman.net (unknown [38.109.115.130]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by che.mayfirst.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 4B532F99D; Mon, 25 Feb 2019 18:15:25 -0500 (EST) Received: by fifthhorseman.net (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 3AC2020145; Mon, 25 Feb 2019 18:15:22 -0500 (EST) From: Daniel Kahn Gillmor To: Antoine =?utf-8?Q?Beaupr=C3=A9?= Cc: notmuch@notmuchmail.org Subject: Re: [RFC] writing HTML email with notmuch In-Reply-To: <87mumjjwv0.fsf@curie.anarc.at> References: <875zt8zlav.fsf@curie.anarc.at> <87o96zpnxw.fsf@fifthhorseman.net> <87lg23ldrl.fsf@curie.anarc.at> <87mumjjwv0.fsf@curie.anarc.at> Autocrypt: addr=dkg@fifthhorseman.net; prefer-encrypt=mutual; keydata= mDMEXEK/AhYJKwYBBAHaRw8BAQdAr/gSROcn+6m8ijTN0DV9AahoHGafy52RRkhCZVwxhEe0K0Rh bmllbCBLYWhuIEdpbGxtb3IgPGRrZ0BmaWZ0aGhvcnNlbWFuLm5ldD6ImQQTFggAQQIbAQUJA8Jn AAULCQgHAgYVCgkICwIEFgIDAQIeAQIXgBYhBMS8Lds4zOlkhevpwvIGkReQOOXGBQJcQsbzAhkB AAoJEPIGkReQOOXG4fkBAO1joRxqAZY57PjdzGieXLpluk9RkWa3ufkt3YUVEpH/AP9c+pgIxtyW +FwMQRjlqljuj8amdN4zuEqaCy4hhz/1DbgzBFxCv4sWCSsGAQQB2kcPAQEHQERSZxSPmgtdw6nN u7uxY7bzb9TnPrGAOp9kClBLRwGfiPUEGBYIACYWIQTEvC3bOMzpZIXr6cLyBpEXkDjlxgUCXEK/ iwIbAgUJAeEzgACBCRDyBpEXkDjlxnYgBBkWCAAdFiEEyQ5tNiAKG5IqFQnndhgZZSmuX/gFAlxC v4sACgkQdhgZZSmuX/iVWgD/fCU4ONzgy8w8UCHGmrmIZfDvdhg512NIBfx+Mz9ls5kA/Rq97vz4 z48MFuBdCuu0W/fVqVjnY7LN5n+CQJwGC0MIA7QA/RyY7Sz2gFIOcrns0RpoHr+3WI+won3xCD8+ sVXSHZvCAP98HCjDnw/b0lGuCR7coTXKLIM44/LFWgXAdZjm1wjODbg4BFxCv50SCisGAQQBl1UB BQEBB0BG4iXnHX/fs35NWKMWQTQoRI7oiAUt0wJHFFJbomxXbAMBCAeIfgQYFggAJhYhBMS8Lds4 zOlkhevpwvIGkReQOOXGBQJcQr+dAhsMBQkB4TOAAAoJEPIGkReQOOXGe/cBAPlek5d9xzcXUn/D kY6jKmxe26CTws3ZkbK6Aa5Ey/qKAP0VuPQSCRxA7RKfcB/XrEphfUFkraL06Xn/xGwJ+D0hCw== Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2019 18:15:21 -0500 Message-ID: <878sy3piie.fsf@fifthhorseman.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="=-=-="; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-BeenThere: notmuch@notmuchmail.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Use and development of the notmuch mail system." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2019 23:15:30 -0000 --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon 2019-02-25 18:01:55 -0500, Antoine Beaupr=C3=A9 wrote: > I seem to have forgotten to CC the list in my reply, sorry for the > noise. > > I elided the attachment here because I sent a newer version in > 87r2bvjx02.fsf@curie.anarc.at. thanks! > On 2019-02-25 17:11:26, Antoine Beaupr wrote: Interesting, your MUA is relying on the default charset=3Diso-8859-1 (latin-1) or is it charset=3Diso-8859-15 (latin-7)? it's sending me octal 0o351 as the last letter of your last name, which my notmuch-emacs renders as a raw octet ("Beaupr\351"), maybe because i'm in a UTF-8 locale? wtf, why are we still failing at this in 2019, with updated MUAs? i guess it might be my own fault for having this line in my custom-set-variables in ~/.emacs: '(message-default-charset (quote utf-8)) but the docs for message-default-charset say: This variable is obsolete since 26.1; The default charset comes from the language environment shouldn't emacs mml mode explicitly mark the charset in the Content-Type header when generating a text/plain part no matter what? grumpily, --dkg --=-=-= Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iHUEARYKAB0WIQTJDm02IAobkioVCed2GBllKa5f+AUCXHR3CQAKCRB2GBllKa5f +MqiAQCXIq3FLqegVa+G04mVpVMUM2UJJN4gn3EjDRzJr269+gD6A1rUjgCzHxo/ kObNhL4bLGpnQf3ZxkRZpjBB/TcX7Q4= =ASe4 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-=-=--