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From: Dmitry Kurochkin <dmitry.kurochkin@gmail.com>
To: Austin Clements <amdragon@MIT.EDU>
Cc: notmuch@notmuchmail.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2] test: use emacsclient(1) for Emacs tests
Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2011 08:44:51 +0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <877h86zhrw.fsf@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20110628041742.GC4120@mit.edu>

On Tue, 28 Jun 2011 00:17:42 -0400, Austin Clements <amdragon@MIT.EDU> wrote:
> Quoth Dmitry Kurochkin on Jun 28 at  7:59 am:
> > I am sure that would work, but I do not like the complexity.  How about
> > getting back to standard emacsclient and running a watchdog in the
> > emacs?  Like:
> > 
> > (defun orphan-watchdog (pid)
> >   "Periodically check that the process with id PID is still
> > running, quit if it terminated."
> >   (if (not (process-attributes pid))
> >       (kill-emacs)
> >     (run-at-time "1 min" nil orphan-watchdog pid)))
> > 
> > This function (or my other changes) do not work (by yet unknown reason
> > :)), but you get the idea.
> 
> I would consider this more complex than a few file descriptors. ]:--8)

More shell code and more elisp code.  I do not think can be considered
simpler :)

> Though, I'm automatically distrustful of anything that relies on
> polling (why poll when you can be notified instantly?).
> 

I agree that polling is not as elegant as an instant notification.  But
IMO reinventing emacsclient just kills all the beauty of this solution.
I liked it when it was a simple read loop, but now it is too complex to
my taste.  Besides, I am a bit worried that we will face new problems in
the future that would force us to add more "features" to our
not-so-poor-man's Emacs server implementation.

> It also has some problems.  For example, PID's are easily reused, so
> if another process happens to take up that PID, the emacs could still
> hang around for a long time.

Indeed.  We may add a more complex process detection, but IMO it is an
overkill.

Anyway, I am done with reworking the patch series and will post it now.
Perhaps others would voice their opinion on this one.

Regards,
  Dmitry

  reply	other threads:[~2011-06-28  4:44 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-06-26 23:52 [PATCH 1/5] test: do not set `message-signature' in test_emacs Dmitry Kurochkin
2011-06-26 23:52 ` [PATCH 2/5] test: cleanup test_emacs Dmitry Kurochkin
2011-06-26 23:52 ` [PATCH 3/5] test: wrap and indent test_emacs calls Dmitry Kurochkin
2011-06-26 23:52 ` [PATCH 4/5] test: save buffer content to file instead of printing it in Emacs tests Dmitry Kurochkin
2011-06-26 23:52 ` [PATCH 5/5] test: remove some sed(1) calls " Dmitry Kurochkin
2011-06-27  3:54 ` [PATCH 1/2] test: use emacs_deliver_message in Emacs SMTP send test Dmitry Kurochkin
2011-06-27  3:54   ` [PATCH 2/2] test: use emacsclient(1) for Emacs tests Dmitry Kurochkin
2011-06-27 20:02     ` Austin Clements
2011-06-27 20:22       ` Dmitry Kurochkin
2011-06-27 20:32         ` Austin Clements
2011-06-28  1:03         ` Dmitry Kurochkin
2011-06-28  3:49           ` Austin Clements
2011-06-28  3:59             ` Dmitry Kurochkin
2011-06-28  4:17               ` Austin Clements
2011-06-28  4:44                 ` Dmitry Kurochkin [this message]
2011-06-28 16:22             ` Austin Clements
2011-06-28 16:42               ` Dmitry Kurochkin
2011-06-28 20:10                 ` Carl Worth
2011-06-28 20:47                   ` Dmitry Kurochkin
2011-06-28 22:41                     ` Carl Worth
2011-06-28 20:58                   ` Dmitry Kurochkin
2011-06-28 22:42                     ` Carl Worth

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