From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by olra.theworths.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BAAC0421186 for ; Thu, 30 Jun 2011 00:50:31 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at olra.theworths.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.7 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.7 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7] autolearn=disabled Received: from olra.theworths.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (olra.theworths.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id PVPRWMeDCCw2 for ; Thu, 30 Jun 2011 00:50:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-ww0-f45.google.com (mail-ww0-f45.google.com [74.125.82.45]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by olra.theworths.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0A94D421192 for ; Thu, 30 Jun 2011 00:50:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: by wwj40 with SMTP id 40so1606821wwj.2 for ; Thu, 30 Jun 2011 00:50:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.227.184.65 with SMTP id cj1mr1480547wbb.51.1309420229635; Thu, 30 Jun 2011 00:50:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost ([109.131.21.173]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id d19sm1427768wbh.42.2011.06.30.00.50.28 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Thu, 30 Jun 2011 00:50:28 -0700 (PDT) From: Pieter Praet To: Austin Clements , Carl Worth Subject: Re: Preventing the user shooting themself in the foot In-Reply-To: References: User-Agent: Notmuch/0.5-303-g00a1bf6 (http://notmuchmail.org) Emacs/23.1.50.1 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2011 09:50:27 +0200 Message-ID: <874o377o70.fsf@praet.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: Notmuch Mail X-BeenThere: notmuch@notmuchmail.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: "Use and development of the notmuch mail system." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2011 07:50:31 -0000 On Wed, 29 Jun 2011 19:53:03 -0400, Austin Clements wrote: Non-text part: multipart/mixed Non-text part: multipart/alternative > I've spent embarrassingly little time in the emacs UI, so my opinions on > this should be taken lightly, but I feel like all of the bindings are of the > form "if W, do X and Y, otherwise do Z" and, as a result, I'm actively > afraid of what's going to happen when I hit a key. I would much prefer > bindings with simple, highly predictable behavior. I'm sure there's some > workflow for which these contextual, compound bindings are fantastic, but > other workflows wind up fighting against them. Very true! > I don't have a specific proposal in mind, but Gmail's bindings seem like a > good model to emulate (the actions, at least; I've never been too fond of > the specific key choices). +1 And AFAIK, "Archive" does *not* mark a message as read in GMail. (see previous messages suggesting the inverse) > On Jun 29, 2011 6:40 PM, "Carl Worth" wrote: Non-text part: text/html > _______________________________________________ > notmuch mailing list > notmuch@notmuchmail.org > http://notmuchmail.org/mailman/listinfo/notmuch Peace -- Pieter