From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by olra.theworths.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 54A2A431FBF for ; Sat, 19 Dec 2009 16:25:20 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at olra.theworths.org Received: from olra.theworths.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (olra.theworths.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 5gE-cSCzhTbP for ; Sat, 19 Dec 2009 16:25:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-gx0-f221.google.com (mail-gx0-f221.google.com [209.85.217.221]) by olra.theworths.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DE00431FAE for ; Sat, 19 Dec 2009 16:25:19 -0800 (PST) Received: by gxk21 with SMTP id 21so1938681gxk.10 for ; Sat, 19 Dec 2009 16:25:19 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:from:to:subject:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:mime-version:content-type; bh=1FwHjHcNQwxHnzG5QP4mtSSbxSxyoGkUUx7hH+buBV4=; b=c3kLsxpSGVHt5qkezIcsWPFQS13vfXpbEKNyPQNO79GQV4twxd63mZvXI+UAB27C7m bitvlUFzCoLS6z3RMlrOOJmbNl6gsrTfBB8Y2wwkKyZfN5oxeDfDReMQm4b5lmJPJ9OX SY/H2wXf9AVSms/q+T8Bk094c6OzkQHZZWa3Q= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:to:subject:in-reply-to:bcc:references:date:message-id :mime-version:content-type; b=Kt40NiaG8IZ0LowJOr1jDtasIRhIFc/BkVfHnRBVZnYOlQpVGyBDRLJOnOZqSDAmKn BOF+syzN8p6X/XjECEt9fqvoPHDJpKTbW3eqagkihY6fubULMmkYOYFKystiKWyYIET/ 5xZCZ1HDAeaTqX52JxQqiJbYGMwKlONMhPmgU= Received: by 10.101.10.3 with SMTP id n3mr9030494ani.81.1261268718838; Sat, 19 Dec 2009 16:25:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (220-244-174-171.static.tpgi.com.au [220.244.174.171]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 15sm1665497gxk.8.2009.12.19.16.25.16 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sat, 19 Dec 2009 16:25:17 -0800 (PST) From: Alex Ghitza To: Jed Brown , notmuch@notmuchmail.org In-Reply-To: <8763836xnv.fsf@59A2.org> References: <54hbrnpod1.fsf@gmail.com> <8763836xnv.fsf@59A2.org> Date: Sun, 20 Dec 2009 11:24:52 +1100 Message-ID: <54hbrmze3v.fsf@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: Re: keeping a copy of sent mail locally X-BeenThere: notmuch@notmuchmail.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: "Use and development of the notmuch mail system." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 Dec 2009 00:25:20 -0000 On Sat, 19 Dec 2009 02:55:16 -0800, Jed Brown wrote: > On Sat, 19 Dec 2009 15:41:14 +1100, Alex Ghitza wrote: > > Bcc-ing myself on every sent message is suboptimal for a number of > > reasons: (1) gmail throws away the bcc-ed copy since it has the same > > message id as the one sitting in the gmail sent mail, and so the > > bcc-ed copy never makes it back to my local mail; > > I agree it is suboptimal, but are you sure this is true? I send > messages via gmail and those having Bcc to me are marked as new and > downloaded by the next pass of getmail (via POP). > Aha! Your reply prodded me to investigate this further. The problem seems to be in the way I'm working with the emacs "Message" mode. Namely, Bcc works fine when I *reply* to a message from notmuch in emacs: while composing the reply I see the automatically added Bcc header, and after sending through gmail and getting the new mail via POP I get the message back. However, if I'm using notmuch in emacs and press 'm' to compose a new message, then the Bcc header is not added automatically and I guess it's not surprising that the rest doesn't work as expected. So where is the difference between 'm' and 'r' coming from? I have (setq mail-self-blind t) in my .emacs, and I thought that should take care of things, but it obviously doesn't. Best, Alex -- Alex Ghitza -- Lecturer in Mathematics -- The University of Melbourne -- Australia -- http://www.ms.unimelb.edu.au/~aghitza/