From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by olra.theworths.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63443431FAF for ; Wed, 3 Apr 2013 02:15:34 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at olra.theworths.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.799 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.799 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7] autolearn=disabled Received: from olra.theworths.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (olra.theworths.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id q+KriN1krPrY for ; Wed, 3 Apr 2013 02:15:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-ie0-f176.google.com (mail-ie0-f176.google.com [209.85.223.176]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by olra.theworths.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BF911431FAE for ; Wed, 3 Apr 2013 02:15:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-ie0-f176.google.com with SMTP id x14so1416953ief.35 for ; Wed, 03 Apr 2013 02:15:32 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:date:from:to:cc:message-id:in-reply-to:references :subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=d9MpGSTz3on4WzPEZJHeekNSBHz1eU4OrwTG2HqclBo=; b=gkJcU7zKMp3Vv/MXWLqElsZMKJWbydid8dvrA+fLGPDQLGSlgNzHKBViqBDqgnz+f5 ipUyCnwjpRihhzqJEZnehdtXuCXyZEOo+xijc9fh7GP39WaS4bi3NtUf/NOF19wHUIiL Xx5fo33W3alqK4rZureGulIHK5EfwidIjzeTZsie7z0habIxCETwsMk8Lv9yKccoEHRD t4wtspK/d87MVpbJgpe/EmOZDRdj4mCzX1lM5KiYJ1OSO463sqiGMiiUpT6npjOrQ5Pp oqQelP4tw7ezGzQ/LjfWBAlIh2vOiWh+u+rBo5c+l9pi4WQ6ltNkjgF3WmpscKg0wYS5 diUQ== X-Received: by 10.42.247.8 with SMTP id ma8mr493395icb.1.1364980532298; Wed, 03 Apr 2013 02:15:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (187-163-100-70.static.axtel.net. [187.163.100.70]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id dy5sm3585214igc.1.2013.04.03.02.15.30 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Wed, 03 Apr 2013 02:15:31 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 03 Apr 2013 03:09:39 -0600 From: Felipe Contreras To: guyzmo , Felipe Contreras Message-ID: <515bf1d3cdb5b_79f845e181791@nysa.mail> In-Reply-To: <20130403060158.GJ7702@vilya.m0g.net> References: <871udhcmks.fsf@zancas.localnet> <515b37a1821fc_146e1045e1094149@nysa.mail> <20130403060158.GJ7702@vilya.m0g.net> Subject: Re: the future of notmuch-vim? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: notmuch@notmuchmail.org X-BeenThere: notmuch@notmuchmail.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: "Use and development of the notmuch mail system." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 03 Apr 2013 09:15:34 -0000 guyzmo wrote: > On Tue, Apr 02, 2013 at 01:55:13PM -0600, Felipe Contreras wrote: > > Sorry for the late reply, I wasn't following the ml. > > same here > > > David Bremner wrote: > > > - There are now several alternatives for people whose only motivation to > > > use the vim frontend was dislike of emacs (alot and notmuch-mutt). > > I did try the emacs frontend, and it was not working properly for me at the > > time, and I believe I documented my issues. It was not just my dislike of emacs > > that motivated me to write notmuch-vim-ruby. > > I'd say not liking emacs is not a good reason for using vim as a > MUA. Vim is just a text editor, and nothing else. Vim is a pretty extensible text editor that works prectly fine as a MUA, in fact, much better than any other MUA I've ever used. That is a good reason. > > > There are several alternative vim frontends floating around in (at > > > least) ruby and python. I don't if they are better or worse > > > functionality wise. > > I'd say notmuch-vim-ruby is the best one, but of course I'm biased :) > > It may be nice and/or fun to use that kind of things in vim, but > really, it's opposite to the philosophy of vim. The philosophy of vim is irrelevant, what is relevant is what you can do with it, and you can use it as a perfectly good MUA. > I personnally prefer a thousand times to use mutt-kz, alot as MUA, and > vim only for writing mails. What you prefer is irrelevant; it's relevant only for you, that's why it's called a *preference*, the rest of us prefer different things. I've tried mutt-kz and alot, and I was utterly dissapointed by both. See how snappy and fast notmuch-vim-ruby is[1], alot is much worst in these respects. [1] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JGD7IbZmnIs -- Felipe Contreras