From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by olra.theworths.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8687A431FAF for ; Tue, 2 Apr 2013 13:03:24 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at olra.theworths.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.799 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.799 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7] autolearn=disabled Received: from olra.theworths.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (olra.theworths.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id vh2v-yQhjKVD for ; Tue, 2 Apr 2013 13:03:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-gg0-f182.google.com (mail-gg0-f182.google.com [209.85.161.182]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by olra.theworths.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0750A431FAE for ; Tue, 2 Apr 2013 13:03:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-gg0-f182.google.com with SMTP id u2so125550ggn.27 for ; Tue, 02 Apr 2013 13:03:23 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:date:from:to:cc:message-id:in-reply-to:references :subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=D6NHyt4H5BipW6FMv130x8fel/HgMD3hwna7mE60KiA=; b=U4qFK21ZNzmWfok/ZhtVBB+dXZ9srXvhst5RS8VdmGL1pSGZ8CiKNhzylK3++GOlmD bSN0I9nDm1DywTU7oKC59JB0qtUkp4twsW17hLLQ57208exbMMduoR+8XrNxwSmq9NA7 PZ9XyPRN+Orw4AeabPoqec4grWzZo4Js5xKgJaWhlweVwfjCgGeBlHIH7XXf7wtgv7g2 8O9Ppnq07yTdqLxW6rItD/UfEcjt7a/Hw4PJAoA4dGfVS7BEDpIGuZxjl8QQWes1fxLe TTj1j+t34jHXNfDDmdDwOIHNUYx5EARfHpz73gYdGzqMJoradcIyMRUUfzfvrFcLcfv6 cFwA== X-Received: by 10.236.14.5 with SMTP id c5mr16230698yhc.194.1364933003525; Tue, 02 Apr 2013 13:03:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (187-163-100-70.static.axtel.net. [187.163.100.70]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 30sm5211263yhb.6.2013.04.02.13.03.21 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Tue, 02 Apr 2013 13:03:22 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 02 Apr 2013 13:55:13 -0600 From: Felipe Contreras To: David Bremner , notmuch@notmuchmail.org Message-ID: <515b37a1821fc_146e1045e1094149@nysa.mail> In-Reply-To: <871udhcmks.fsf@zancas.localnet> References: <871udhcmks.fsf@zancas.localnet> Subject: RE: the future of notmuch-vim? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: notmuch@notmuchmail.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: "Use and development of the notmuch mail system." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 02 Apr 2013 20:03:24 -0000 Hi, Sorry for the late reply, I wasn't following the ml. David Bremner wrote: > There is apparently still some people that use it (although notice the > "Vote" column is 0). > > On the other hand > > - The vim frontend is afaik the last thing depending on the legacy text > output format. > > - The plugin seems to be only semi-functional at the moment; in a quick > test I found a message that didn't display it's content, and one that > displayed the content, along with "junk" from the internal > representation. Indeed, I'd say the code is very poor at best. > - There are now several alternatives for people whose only motivation to > use the vim frontend was dislike of emacs (alot and notmuch-mutt). I did try the emacs frontend, and it was not working properly for me at the time, and I believe I documented my issues. It was not just my dislike of emacs that motivated me to write notmuch-vim-ruby. > There are several alternative vim frontends floating around in (at > least) ruby and python. I don't if they are better or worse > functionality wise. I'd say notmuch-vim-ruby is the best one, but of course I'm biased :) > I'm considering stopping building debian packages for notmuch-vim, since > I don't see any current prospects for the package improving. I'm not > sure what the equivalent thing to do upstream would be, perhaps moving > it to contrib. Or, deprecating it and then removing it. > > What do people think? Personally I think notmuch-vim should be replaced with notmuch-vim-ruby. I did try the python version, and remember discussing options with the guy developing it, but nothing happened out of it, and I think the ruby version is superior. I'd be open to discuss the options here, but I think notmuch-vim-ruby is the only real option. Cheers. -- Felipe Contreras