From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by olra.theworths.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D78C431FB6 for ; Fri, 6 Apr 2012 13:18:03 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at olra.theworths.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.3 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.3 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3] autolearn=disabled Received: from olra.theworths.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (olra.theworths.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id K2vTt5FPiggh for ; Fri, 6 Apr 2012 13:18:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tx2outboundpool.messaging.microsoft.com (tx2ehsobe002.messaging.microsoft.com [65.55.88.12]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by olra.theworths.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A0662431FAE for ; Fri, 6 Apr 2012 13:18:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail120-tx2-R.bigfish.com (10.9.14.249) by TX2EHSOBE009.bigfish.com (10.9.40.29) with Microsoft SMTP Server id 14.1.225.23; Fri, 6 Apr 2012 20:18:00 +0000 Received: from mail120-tx2 (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail120-tx2-R.bigfish.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 959B12004FD; Fri, 6 Apr 2012 20:18:00 +0000 (UTC) X-SpamScore: -16 X-BigFish: VPS-16(zzc89bh1432N98dK4015I179dNzz1202hzzz2dh668h839h93fhd24h) X-Forefront-Antispam-Report: CIP:163.181.249.108; KIP:(null); UIP:(null); IPV:NLI; H:ausb3twp01.amd.com; RD:none; EFVD:NLI Received: from mail120-tx2 (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by mail120-tx2 (MessageSwitch) id 1333743477691804_30632; Fri, 6 Apr 2012 20:17:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: from TX2EHSMHS025.bigfish.com (unknown [10.9.14.238]) by mail120-tx2.bigfish.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99552C004A; Fri, 6 Apr 2012 20:17:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ausb3twp01.amd.com (163.181.249.108) by TX2EHSMHS025.bigfish.com (10.9.99.125) with Microsoft SMTP Server id 14.1.225.23; Fri, 6 Apr 2012 20:17:57 +0000 X-WSS-ID: 0M22R1V-01-4PU-02 X-M-MSG: Received: from sausexedgep02.amd.com (sausexedgep02-ext.amd.com [163.181.249.73]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ausb3twp01.amd.com (Axway MailGate 3.8.1) with ESMTP id 21C56102807C; Fri, 6 Apr 2012 15:17:55 -0500 (CDT) Received: from sausexhtp02.amd.com (163.181.3.152) by sausexedgep02.amd.com (163.181.36.59) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 8.3.192.1; Fri, 6 Apr 2012 15:18:15 -0500 Received: from adcvmail01.amd.com (163.181.21.78) by sausexhtp02.amd.com (163.181.3.152) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 8.3.213.0; Fri, 6 Apr 2012 15:17:55 -0500 Received: from mhdc-ns01.amd.com (mhdc-ns01.amd.com [165.204.35.147]) by adcvmail01.amd.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id q36KHrNc003044; Fri, 6 Apr 2012 15:17:53 -0500 Received: from testarossa.amd.com (testarossa.amd.com [165.204.147.44]) by mhdc-ns01.amd.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id q36KHr6E024537; Fri, 6 Apr 2012 14:17:53 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from manderso@localhost) by testarossa.amd.com (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) id q36KHptB014143; Fri, 6 Apr 2012 14:17:51 -0600 X-Authentication-Warning: testarossa.amd.com: manderso set sender to MarkR.Anderson@amd.com using -f From: Mark Anderson To: Antoine =?utf-8?Q?Beaupr=C3=A9?= , Jameson Graef Rollins , Jacek Generowicz , Subject: Re: Message deletion wisdom In-Reply-To: <87k41ucfqc.fsf@marcos.anarcat.ath.cx> References: <0cc49af3-5415-419d-97ef-2bec76117d63@CERNFE22.cern.ch> <87sjgk2xzf.fsf@servo.finestructure.net> <87k41ucfqc.fsf@marcos.anarcat.ath.cx> User-Agent: Notmuch/0.11.1+251~g1093c24 (http://notmuchmail.org) Emacs/23.2.1 (i686-pc-linux-gnu) Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2012 14:17:50 -0600 Message-ID: <3wdobr4vclt.fsf@testarossa.amd.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-OriginatorOrg: amd.com X-BeenThere: notmuch@notmuchmail.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: "Use and development of the notmuch mail system." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 Apr 2012 20:18:03 -0000 On Thu, 5 Apr 2012 12:20:43 -0400, Antoine Beaupr=C3=A9 wrote: > Finally, I want to voice that I feel a "delete" key, even if it doesn't > delete mails, seems like an important part of a mail user > agent. Archiving mail is one thing, but for the love and respect of > sysadmins and the infrastructure they maintain, please consider adding > at least a way to *tag* those deleted emails. >=20 > Having the above keys being defined as standard in notmuch don't seem > like much to ask. >=20 > This may be a dissenting view here, but your mail is not that > important. :P Hear! Hear! I also would like to have some natural way to mark things as "I never expect to look at this again". Do I really need to keep track of every vacation and calendar notice? Or every logfile I have my infrastructure email to me, that doesn't really need to be in email, but was easily shoehorned into the existing notification/logging side effects of mail? My infrastructure is building new models for unit-level testing daily, I don't need to keep track of every model for years, and I have been using notmuch for years. Hmm, December 2009, it has been a while. :) I do set up a deleted tag for my own use, but it would be nice if that were viewed as a little more natural use case by the software from the ./configure script. Yes Virginia, notmuch comes with NotMuch of a box. Thanks, -Mark