From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by arlo.cworth.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 371C76DE015B for ; Tue, 19 Jul 2016 03:52:02 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at cworth.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.096 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.096 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=2.214, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01, UNPARSEABLE_RELAY=0.001] autolearn=disabled Received: from arlo.cworth.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (arlo.cworth.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 0MieoV6E8xKD for ; Tue, 19 Jul 2016 03:51:54 -0700 (PDT) X-Greylist: delayed 935 seconds by postgrey-1.35 at arlo; Tue, 19 Jul 2016 03:51:54 PDT Received: from userp1050.oracle.com (userp1050.oracle.com [156.151.31.82]) by arlo.cworth.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 08F8B6DE012F for ; Tue, 19 Jul 2016 03:51:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from userp1040.oracle.com (userp1040.oracle.com [156.151.31.81]) by userp1050.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2/Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2) with ESMTP id u6JAaKk0000382 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=OK) for ; Tue, 19 Jul 2016 10:36:20 GMT Received: from aserv0022.oracle.com (aserv0022.oracle.com [141.146.126.234]) by userp1040.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2/Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2) with ESMTP id u6JAaGRf014460 (version=TLSv1 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Tue, 19 Jul 2016 10:36:17 GMT Received: from userv0121.oracle.com (userv0121.oracle.com [156.151.31.72]) by aserv0022.oracle.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id u6JAaG1C002107 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Tue, 19 Jul 2016 10:36:16 GMT Received: from abhmp0018.oracle.com (abhmp0018.oracle.com [141.146.116.24]) by userv0121.oracle.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id u6JAaFRe004424; Tue, 19 Jul 2016 10:36:15 GMT Received: from virtual.cz.oracle.com (/10.163.86.11) by default (Oracle Beehive Gateway v4.0) with ESMTP ; Tue, 19 Jul 2016 03:36:14 -0700 Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2016 12:36:11 +0200 From: Vladimir Marek To: "=?utf-8?Q?Rapha=C3=ABl?= Fournier-S'niehotta" Cc: notmuch@notmuchmail.org Subject: Re: Avoiding the "huge INBOX of death" Message-ID: <20160719103610.GB972@virtual.cz.oracle.com> References: <20160719094205.qmf5sjnja6crt5t3@gotlib> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20160719094205.qmf5sjnja6crt5t3@gotlib> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.22.1-rc1 (2013-10-16) X-Source-IP: userp1040.oracle.com [156.151.31.81] X-BeenThere: notmuch@notmuchmail.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: "Use and development of the notmuch mail system." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2016 10:52:02 -0000 I can't speak for everyone, but here's what I am using. I do have 'messages' directory which contains 'imap' and 'archive'. messages \-imap \-archive The imap directory is being synchronized via offlineimap to the server. In the offlineimap postsync hook I call a script which does some bookkeeping on the newly received messages and it also marks old and already read and not flagged emails by the 'old-tread' tag. N=notmuch while : ; do AGE=100d # 100 days # Find all threads containing old messages OLD_MESSAGES=$( $N search --output=threads not tag:archive and date:..$AGE and not tag:unread and not tag:flagged ) [ -n "$OLD_MESSAGES" ] || break # Find threads containing newer messages NEW_MESSAGES=$( $N search --output=threads not tag:archive and not '(' date:..$AGE or tag:unread or tag:flagged ')' ) # remove the threads containing newer messages OLD_THREADS=$( /usr/xpg4/bin/fgrep -v -x -f <(echo "$NEW_MESSAGES") < <(echo "$OLD_MESSAGES") ) [ -n "$OLD_THREADS" ] || break $N tag +old-thread -- $OLD_THREADS break done # If old thread received newer message, unmark it too $N tag -old-thread -- tag:old-thread and '(' not date:..$AGE or tag:unread or tag:flagged or tag:archive ')' Once in a while I review the old-thread messages and assign them by hand 'archive' flag. The postsync hook is looking for this flag and moves all messages to be archived into archive folder. You can list files to be archived by $N search --output=files 'path:imap/**' tag:archive I won't list the commands to move files from messages/imap to messages/archive since I have a bit more complex scenario. But it should be straightforward. On next run offlineimap sees that the messages disappeared from 'imap' folder and removes them from imap server. $ notmuch count '*' 734346 $ notmuch count 'path:imap/**' 18419 In my case I am server side filtering the emails into several folders so that I have at least some order in emails when reading email via phone, so 'path:imap/**' contains all the messages in whole imap tree. $ notmuch count 'path:imap/** and tag:inbox and tag:unread' 11 I'm trying to have my virtual INBOX empty most of the time. I'm interested what tricks others use! Cheers -- Vlad