From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by olra.theworths.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 403E5431FB6 for ; Thu, 14 Feb 2013 11:53:41 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at olra.theworths.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[none] autolearn=disabled Received: from olra.theworths.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (olra.theworths.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id HelBkAfm5r8B for ; Thu, 14 Feb 2013 11:53:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from zzyzx.sigpipe.org (zzyzx.sigpipe.org [147.28.0.13]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by olra.theworths.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C2676431FAF for ; Thu, 14 Feb 2013 11:53:40 -0800 (PST) Received: by zzyzx.sigpipe.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 98B2F1401F6; Thu, 14 Feb 2013 19:53:38 +0000 (UTC) Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2013 19:53:38 +0000 From: Michael Elkins To: notmuch@notmuchmail.org Subject: [OT] mutt configuration & philosophy (was Re: notmuch-mutt: Use of uninitialized value.) Message-ID: <20130214195338.GA21433@sigpipe.org> References: <20130212005801.GA8419@soarin> <20130213223535.GA3258@zaogao.lan> <20130213233657.GA4489@soarin> <20130214083713.GA4123@upsilon.cc> <20130214141322.GA26490@soarin> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <20130214141322.GA26490@soarin> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21+144 (b86b154f3988) (2012-12-30) X-BeenThere: notmuch@notmuchmail.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: "Use and development of the notmuch mail system." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2013 19:53:41 -0000 On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 03:13:22PM +0100, Profpatsch wrote: >Plus it still takes about 10 steps to configure a new account with >offlineimap, mutt and msmtp, there is nothing to automate this and >every config is different. Whoa. Mutt was designed with the UNIX philosophy in mind. When users don't like the way something is implemented in Mutt, you can use an external tool to do the job instead. We consider this to be a feature, not a deficiency. >For example: >Why does one have to spend two–four hours enabling pgp with the basic, >pre-configured commands? >Why is there no command that enables pgp with default sane gnupg values >that I assume 99.9% of mutt users use? set crypt_use_gpgme >Why is the standard mailbox named “spooldir” and an easy explanation of >that is nowhere to be found in the official docs? We assume users are familiar with basic UNIX concepts like the mail spool. >And the list goes on. Documentation patches are highly welcome.