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From: Profpatsch <mail@profpatsch.de>
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Subject: Re: notmuch-mutt: Use of uninitialized value.
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On 13-02-14 09:37am, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote:
> More isolation for this kind of
> things in Mutt would definitely be welcome...

Maybe it=E2=80=99s time for an overhaul of the mutt configuration from the
ground up. I know, it=E2=80=99s =E2=80=9Cconfigure once and be done with it=
=E2=80=9D, but it
took me two hard weeks to get that program up and running the way I want
(that=E2=80=99s even more time than I used on my 300+ line vimrc!).

I suppose it=E2=80=99s a documentation issue, too. One relies on blog entri=
es
way too much, even to find out how to use multiple accounts (I=E2=80=99ve g=
ot
around 10).

Plus it still takes about 10 steps to configure a new account with
offlineimap, mutt and msmtp, there is nothing to automate this and
every config is different. Whoa.

For example:
Why does one have to spend two=E2=80=93four hours enabling pgp with the bas=
ic,
pre-configured commands?
Why is there no command that enables pgp with default sane gnupg values
that I assume 99.9% of mutt users use?
Why is the standard mailbox named =E2=80=9Cspooldir=E2=80=9D and an easy ex=
planation of
that is nowhere to be found in the official docs?
And the list goes on.

~Profpatsch

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