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From: Austin Clements <amdragon@MIT.EDU>
To: Jameson Graef Rollins <jrollins@finestructure.net>
Cc: notmuch@notmuchmail.org
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v5 00/11] Add NOTMUCH_MESSAGE_FLAG_EXCLUDED flag
Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2012 18:59:07 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20120215235907.GY27039@mit.edu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <874nurrbdb.fsf@servo.finestructure.net>

Quoth Jameson Graef Rollins on Feb 15 at  2:16 pm:
> On Wed, 15 Feb 2012 21:11:15 +0000, Mark Walters <markwalters1009@gmail.com> wrote:
> > I think the difficulty is that there are lots of annoying corner cases,
> > but if there is a  simpler solution that would be great!
> 
> I think there is!

There's been a fair bit of discussion of this at
id:"871uqvgrnm.fsf@qmul.ac.uk" (already pointed out on IRC, but I
figured I'd point it out here for others).

There are some drawbacks to separating out the exclude flag, but
personally I think they're minor and that doing so opens up a lot of
interesting UI possibilities as well as providing a very clean and
consistent interface.

> > 1) What should notmuch show id:deleted-message-id do? 
> > 
> > It could return the thread containing the deleted message. If it does
> > return a thread what subject does it assign it?  Possibly it could
> > return no messages and the caller would have to call it again with
> > --no-exclude.
> 
> "notmuch show id:<excluded-id>" should always return the message
> matching id:<excluded-id> with match=true.  In fact, any search that
> references a specific id: should always process the message as if there
> were no excludes at all.

This sounds terribly inconsistent to me.  Even setting that aside, I
can't think of a reasonable way to implement this.  What does it mean
for a search to reference a specific id?  Do you special case when the
query begins with the string "id:"?  Do you parse the query?  Do you
check if the unexcluded search matches exactly one message and do
something different in that case?

  reply	other threads:[~2012-02-16  0:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-02-15  9:03 [RFC PATCH v5 00/11] Add NOTMUCH_MESSAGE_FLAG_EXCLUDED flag Mark Walters
2012-02-15  9:03 ` [RFC PATCH v5 01/11] cli: add --no-exclude option to count and search Mark Walters
2012-02-24 23:03   ` Austin Clements
2012-02-15  9:03 ` [RFC PATCH v5 02/11] cli: Add --no-exclude to the man pages for search and count Mark Walters
2012-02-24 23:05   ` Austin Clements
2012-02-15  9:03 ` [RFC PATCH v5 03/11] test: add tests for new cli --no-exclude option Mark Walters
2012-02-15  9:03 ` [RFC PATCH v5 04/11] lib: Rearrange the exclude code in query.cc Mark Walters
2012-02-15  9:03 ` [RFC PATCH v5 05/11] lib: Make notmuch_query_search_messages set the exclude flag Mark Walters
2012-02-24 23:39   ` Austin Clements
2012-02-15  9:03 ` [RFC PATCH v5 06/11] lib: Add the exclude flag to notmuch_query_search_threads Mark Walters
2012-02-15  9:03 ` [RFC PATCH v5 07/11] cli: Make notmuch-show respect excludes Mark Walters
2012-02-15  9:03 ` [RFC PATCH v5 08/11] man: update manpage for notmuch-show --no-exclude option Mark Walters
2012-02-24 23:44   ` Austin Clements
2012-02-15  9:03 ` [RFC PATCH v5 09/11] test: update tests to reflect the exclude flag Mark Walters
2012-02-24 23:47   ` Austin Clements
2012-02-15  9:03 ` [RFC PATCH v5 10/11] cli: omit excluded messages in results where appropriate Mark Walters
2012-02-15  9:03 ` [RFC PATCH v5 11/11] emacs: show: recognize the exclude flag Mark Walters
2012-02-15 17:46 ` [RFC PATCH v5 00/11] Add NOTMUCH_MESSAGE_FLAG_EXCLUDED flag Jameson Graef Rollins
2012-02-15 18:10   ` Jameson Graef Rollins
2012-02-15 21:11   ` Mark Walters
2012-02-15 22:16     ` Jameson Graef Rollins
2012-02-15 23:59       ` Austin Clements [this message]
2012-02-16  0:30       ` Mark Walters
2012-02-24 23:58 ` Austin Clements

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