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From: Gregor Zattler <telegraph@gmx.net>
To: notmuch <notmuch@notmuchmail.org>
Subject: is there a default reply function? (was: Re: [PATCH v2 5/6] emacs: bind 'r' to reply-to-sender and 'R' to reply-to-all)
Date: Mon, 9 Jan 2012 15:10:17 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20120109141017.GA5306@shi.workgroup> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CA+eQo_3kr3L8Nuz3pOTeUfT-Gi2i46yV-Odgo3gmTyOmEi+mTg@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Jeremy, notmuch -developers,
* Jeremy Nickurak <not-much@trk.nickurak.ca> [08. Jan. 2012]:
> On Sun, Jan 8, 2012 at 14:48, Jani Nikula <jani@nikula.org> wrote:
>> It seemed to me that most people wanted this, and nobody spoke for keeping
>> the old binding now that we have reply-to-sender. This as a separate patch
>> so it's easy to drop if needed.
> 
> FWIW, I generally prefer reply-all as the default. 

Actually I think there is no default at all.  The perception of a
default here is because two different functions are on "r" and
"R" key respectively while the "r" key feels as a default.

Other MUAs have different key bindings:

message mode has "r" as reply and "w" as "wide-reply"
mutt         has "r" as reply and "g" as "group-reply" and "L" as list-reply

I prefer the mutt way of doing this with three different functions.

> In my experience,
> when a message is sent to a bunch of people, it's usually treated as a
> "forum" discussion where everybody wants to be in on
> everything. 

I think you are right for the majority of cases.  But last week I
got in trouble because I did exactly this.  Perhaps here it is
more important which mistake has more potential for disaster.
Both mistakes could be important but I think there is more
disaster potential in giving information to people who shouldn't
get it than the other way around.  In my perception an UI which clearly
distinguishes two or three reply-functions encourages to think
in advance about which to use.  But last week...

> Also,
> once you've started composing, it's much easier to delete people you
> don't want included than to add people who are no longer referenced in
> the new buffer at all.

True.

Ciao, Gregor
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2012-01-09 14:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 81+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-01-05 20:25 [PATCH 0/4] notmuch reply bugfix & reply to sender only Jani Nikula
2012-01-05 20:25 ` [PATCH 1/4] cli: fix use of uninitialized variable in "notmuch reply" Jani Nikula
2012-01-06  3:22   ` David Bremner
2012-01-06  8:11     ` Jani Nikula
2012-01-06 11:57       ` David Bremner
2012-01-07  3:52   ` David Bremner
2012-01-07  7:31     ` Jani Nikula
2012-01-07 11:57       ` Mark Walters
2012-01-07 12:14       ` David Bremner
2012-01-05 20:25 ` [PATCH 2/4] cli: convert "notmuch reply" to use the new argument parser Jani Nikula
2012-01-05 20:25 ` [PATCH 3/4] cli: add support for replying just to the sender in "notmuch reply" Jani Nikula
2012-01-05 20:25 ` [PATCH 4/4] emacs: add support for replying just to the sender of messages and threads Jani Nikula
2012-01-05 20:33 ` [PATCH 0/4] notmuch reply bugfix & reply to sender only Jameson Graef Rollins
2012-01-07 19:25   ` Mueen Nawaz
2012-01-05 22:01 ` Mark Walters
2012-01-06 12:34   ` Jani Nikula
2012-01-06 13:32     ` Mark Walters
2012-01-06 13:34       ` [PATCH 1/4] Add the option "--reply-to" to notmuch reply Mark Walters
2012-01-08 12:47         ` Jani Nikula
2012-01-08 15:08           ` Mark Walters
2012-01-08 16:11             ` Jani Nikula
2012-01-06 13:34       ` [PATCH 2/4] Update the man page for notmuch-reply to give the syntax for the --reply-to option Mark Walters
2012-01-06 13:34       ` [PATCH 3/4] Emacs changes for reply-to-sender Mark Walters
2012-01-06 13:34       ` [PATCH 4/4] add tests " Mark Walters
2012-01-06 14:20     ` [PATCH 0/4] notmuch reply bugfix & reply to sender only Mark Walters
2012-01-06  0:01 ` Adam Wolfe Gordon
2012-01-06 22:11   ` Tomi Ollila
2012-01-06  8:54 ` David Edmondson
2012-01-08 21:48 ` [PATCH v2 0/6] reply to sender Jani Nikula
2012-01-09  8:22   ` David Edmondson
2012-01-09 18:55   ` Dmitry Kurochkin
2012-01-08 21:48 ` [PATCH v2 1/6] cli: fix use of uninitialized variable in "notmuch reply" Jani Nikula
2012-01-08 21:48 ` [PATCH v2 2/6] cli: convert "notmuch reply" to use the new argument parser Jani Nikula
2012-01-08 21:48 ` [PATCH v2 3/6] cli: add support for replying just to the sender in "notmuch reply" Jani Nikula
2012-01-08 23:23   ` Mark Walters
2012-01-09  9:41     ` Jani Nikula
2012-01-09 11:13       ` Mark Walters
2012-01-08 21:48 ` [PATCH v2 4/6] emacs: add support for replying just to the sender Jani Nikula
2012-01-08 21:48 ` [PATCH v2 5/6] emacs: bind 'r' to reply-to-sender and 'R' to reply-to-all Jani Nikula
2012-01-08 22:01   ` Jeremy Nickurak
2012-01-08 23:32     ` Jameson Graef Rollins
2012-01-08 23:56       ` Jeremy Nickurak
2012-01-09 14:10     ` Gregor Zattler [this message]
2012-01-08 21:48 ` [PATCH v2 6/6] test: add tests for "notmuch reply" --reply-to=sender Jani Nikula
2012-01-10 19:54 ` [PATCH v3 0/4] reply to sender Jani Nikula
2012-01-10 19:54 ` [PATCH v3 1/4] cli: add support for replying just to the sender in "notmuch reply" Jani Nikula
2012-01-12  3:31   ` Austin Clements
2012-01-10 19:54 ` [PATCH v3 2/4] emacs: add support for replying just to the sender Jani Nikula
2012-01-11  8:20   ` David Edmondson
2012-01-11  8:45     ` Jani Nikula
2012-01-11  9:08       ` David Edmondson
2012-01-11 21:15     ` Aaron Ecay
2012-01-11 22:08       ` Jani Nikula
2012-01-10 19:54 ` [PATCH v3 3/4] emacs: bind 'r' to reply-to-sender and 'R' to reply-to-all Jani Nikula
2012-01-11  8:21   ` David Edmondson
2012-01-10 19:54 ` [PATCH v3 4/4] test: add tests for "notmuch reply" --reply-to=sender Jani Nikula
2012-01-12  3:50   ` Austin Clements
2012-01-12 12:59     ` Tomi Ollila
2012-01-12 21:40 ` [PATCH v4 0/5] reply to sender Jani Nikula
2012-01-12 21:40 ` [PATCH v4 1/5] cli: slightly refactor "notmuch reply" address scanning functions Jani Nikula
2012-01-12 21:59   ` Austin Clements
2012-01-14 14:22     ` Jani Nikula
2012-01-12 23:28   ` Mark Walters
2012-01-12 21:40 ` [PATCH v4 2/5] cli: add support for replying just to the sender in "notmuch reply" Jani Nikula
2012-01-12 22:02   ` Austin Clements
2012-01-12 23:46   ` Mark Walters
2012-01-12 21:40 ` [PATCH v4 3/5] emacs: add support for replying just to the sender Jani Nikula
2012-01-12 21:40 ` [PATCH v4 4/5] emacs: bind 'r' to reply-to-sender and 'R' to reply-to-all Jani Nikula
2012-01-12 21:40 ` [PATCH v4 5/5] test: add tests for "notmuch reply" --reply-to=sender Jani Nikula
2012-01-14 14:46 ` [PATCH v5 0/5] reply to sender Jani Nikula
2012-01-14 14:46 ` [PATCH v5 1/5] cli: slightly refactor "notmuch reply" address scanning functions Jani Nikula
2012-01-14 15:31   ` David Bremner
2012-01-14 16:48     ` Jani Nikula
2012-01-16 18:06     ` Dmitry Kurochkin
2012-01-16 18:40       ` David Edmondson
2012-01-16 19:26       ` David Bremner
2012-01-16 19:32       ` Jameson Graef Rollins
2012-01-14 14:46 ` [PATCH v5 2/5] cli: add support for replying just to the sender in "notmuch reply" Jani Nikula
2012-01-14 14:46 ` [PATCH v5 3/5] emacs: add support for replying just to the sender Jani Nikula
2012-01-14 14:46 ` [PATCH v5 4/5] emacs: bind 'r' to reply-to-sender and 'R' to reply-to-all Jani Nikula
2012-01-14 14:46 ` [PATCH v5 5/5] test: add tests for "notmuch reply" --reply-to=sender Jani Nikula

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