From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by olra.theworths.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB905431FBC for ; Mon, 21 Dec 2009 06:46:25 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at olra.theworths.org Received: from olra.theworths.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (olra.theworths.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id BFjCosO1-Mh2 for ; Mon, 21 Dec 2009 06:46:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from serrano.cc.columbia.edu (serrano.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.29.6]) by olra.theworths.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B86E0431FAE for ; Mon, 21 Dec 2009 06:46:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from servo.finestructure.net (cpe-72-227-128-66.nyc.res.rr.com [72.227.128.66]) (user=jgr2110 author=jrollins@finestructure.net mech=PLAIN bits=0) by serrano.cc.columbia.edu (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id nBLEkJHr014899 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Mon, 21 Dec 2009 09:46:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from jrollins by servo.finestructure.net with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NMjWe-0006sF-F2; Mon, 21 Dec 2009 09:46:20 -0500 Date: Mon, 21 Dec 2009 09:46:20 -0500 From: Jameson Graef Rollins To: Alex Ghitza Message-ID: <20091221144619.GA20572@finestructure.net> References: <54hbrnpod1.fsf@gmail.com> <8763836xnv.fsf@59A2.org> <54hbrmze3v.fsf@gmail.com> <87aaxextev.fsf@yoom.home.cworth.org> <54eimqz2sk.fsf@gmail.com> <87ws0hjyio.fsf@veldthuis.com> <20091220183113.GA4482@finestructure.net> <54iqc0wsx7.fsf@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="PEIAKu/WMn1b1Hv9" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <54iqc0wsx7.fsf@gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) X-No-Spam-Score: Local X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.68 on 128.59.29.6 Cc: notmuch@notmuchmail.org Subject: Re: keeping a copy of sent mail locally X-BeenThere: notmuch@notmuchmail.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: "Use and development of the notmuch mail system." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Dec 2009 14:46:26 -0000 --PEIAKu/WMn1b1Hv9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Dec 21, 2009 at 08:57:40PM +1100, Alex Ghitza wrote: > On Sun, 20 Dec 2009 13:31:13 -0500, Jameson Graef Rollins wrote: > > Hi, folks. I've been following this thread a bit and I wanted to put > > in my argument that using Bcc is *NOT* the way to save local copies of > > sent mail. I really don't think that we need to require that the mail > > actually get send out to the world wide net just to save a copy of it > > locally. I think there must be better ways of doing this. >=20 > Agreed, and I think that directly saving to a file is the sane way to > go. However, there might be other (more legitimate) uses for always > bcc-ing a certain address on all sent mail, and it might be good to have > an easy mechanism for this. =20 I certainly have no problem with there being the ability to specify an address that is always Bcc'd on sent mail. I think that's a fine idea. I just think that saving local copies of sent mail directly is an important thing to do, and we should figure out the best way to support it correctly. Every mailer that I know of has some way to save local copies of sent mail, and I think most users will expect such a feature. An important thing to consider is that all of this locally saved sent mail should also be immediately incorporated into the database so that it can be immediately searched and displayed with it's relevant threads. jamie. --PEIAKu/WMn1b1Hv9 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: Digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) iQIcBAEBCAAGBQJLL4o0AAoJEO00zqvie6q8/vYP+wYLkRjRJiKBZr6RkJUC8UzD eLTQyaTM3pu4P5o0EuDLpU9Ako5QofUypjJpQNnvI6pNB92lHZvBc2hWX/Gj8+X/ FykuKjh0NGtQUo81IaSL5vlgvHVCdnESiOv6hvhT04XyzWHZoputcjNpJB/PtdL2 ZgY/8s43dnHML8OIIIalTQltM8MzaY2jiCQ+s+1DgzorheuUksCi4s4LIQkQKxex qHI7HTu9lAm7unlO0spSkwwEvcc5afFhYEkGUbzFUrvF5pRgjCCwEtKe9TJIohXY 4Z2x6NdmdBJcjJzkuPMAXxnv4tSxSHHjTwwyY8oPgNCkYN6UhdZTvBYl5Iaf7fIa vuFXHTH7LyaHVwPmjXZANqhGfmHFVmZY5XCaMvT4YaKS7McrZg/V56gV4rUy8n+7 ynXmWgm0R70QsttrRij91V5Hpx4IvO4ObimDt7UduPsn8ir8rGZfsROK/SjpNAkk UFwSHmPiVKJ7WZnFit262YF0nCfWEkBNyNL4JG8q8cx/CiZ8nK7k1bMV2dlN3rnC g9VYYBSjHp74gdr/5C8r0DK2fvIB5+mVNMiqnV8jk8a812csm4WeIevVh6lKv/Dy UfYnXtuTTq/2Xu8Nf58P8DzTJGhcnydQpPJx8E8G20x4i9YOHFm/YhY4npQGWytu nGeQYbqEWLxbZ7d1fLzl =tUeb -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --PEIAKu/WMn1b1Hv9--