Fw: Introducing myself

Fw: Introducing myself

[Adrian Perez de Castro]

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(Re-injecting this one in the list... it was my fault in reality because I
sent two copies, one to the list and another to Carl, so he replied to me
directly. It would have been enough to send my mail to the list -- I am
sorry a lot for the noise)

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Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 00:58:38 +0100
From: Carl Worth <cworth@cworth.org>
To: Adrian Perez de Castro <aperez@igalia.com>
Subject: Re: [notmuch] Introducing myself


On Wed, 18 Nov 2009 16:47:06 +0100, Adrian Perez de Castro
<aperez@igalia.com> wrote:
> On Wed, 18 Nov 2009 03:15:31 -0800, Carl wrote:
>
> I tried the "notmuch.el" Emacs mode, and have just installed Emacs in
> order to be able to try it out. As I have been using Vim for the last ~9
> years, probably that was the reason why I found it not very comfortable.

Wow, you're brave to give it a shot. And I'm glad that you were able to
work your way through it.

> I showed the thing to my work mates this morning and most of them said
> that they would like to have Mutt-like keybindings *with* Not Much's
> search and tagging running behind it.

Any long-time mutt users want to suggest keybindings? I've mostly been
making stuff up as I go (with some influence from sup), but I think it's
early enough that I could still re-train my muscles. Get your votes in
now for your favorite keybindings.

> I also think it would be great to have a curses-based UI, so this may
> be a good opportunity to start doing some serious coding with it in my
> spare time.

Sounds great. I would feel just fine seeing lots of interfaces built up
around the notmuch search and tagging. I do hope people doing custom
interfaces will consider implementing some of the things that I happen
to consider part of the "notmuch experience", (viewing an entire, nested
thread at once with citations/signatures elided---this feature comes
exactly from sup; and my magic space-bar for reading lots of mail with
only one key---though the most important part here is to not archive a
message until it is paged *off* the screen---as opposed to many emailers
that mark a message as "read" as soon as any of the message appears on
the screen).

Of course, if you're doing your own interface, then you get to do
whatever you want. But I hope you might at least consider those ideas.

Happy hacking!

-Carl



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Adrian Perez de Castro <aperez@igalia.com>
Igalia - Free Software Engineering

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Re: Fw: Introducing myself

[Adrian Perez de Castro]

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On Thu, 19 Nov 2009 01:32:30 +0100, Adrian wrote:

> (Re-injecting this one in the list... it was my fault in reality because I
> sent two copies, one to the list and another to Carl, so he replied to me
> directly. It would have been enough to send my mail to the list -- I am
> sorry a lot for the noise)
> 
> Begin forwarded message:
> 
> Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 00:58:38 +0100
> From: Carl Worth <cworth@cworth.org>
> To: Adrian Perez de Castro <aperez@igalia.com>
> Subject: Re: [notmuch] Introducing myself
> 
> 
> On Wed, 18 Nov 2009 16:47:06 +0100, Adrian Perez de Castro
> <aperez@igalia.com> wrote:
> > On Wed, 18 Nov 2009 03:15:31 -0800, Carl wrote:
> >
> > I tried the "notmuch.el" Emacs mode, and have just installed Emacs in
> > order to be able to try it out. As I have been using Vim for the last ~9
> > years, probably that was the reason why I found it not very comfortable.
> 
> Wow, you're brave to give it a shot. And I'm glad that you were able to
> work your way through it.

After trying things a bit with some copied mailboxes, I am planning now on
moving away from Claws-Mail... so Emacs will be sitting here for a
while :D

> > I also think it would be great to have a curses-based UI, so this may
> > be a good opportunity to start doing some serious coding with it in my
> > spare time.
> 
> Sounds great. I would feel just fine seeing lots of interfaces built up
> around the notmuch search and tagging.

Me too, and all sharing the same index.

> [...] I do hope people doing custom
> interfaces will consider implementing some of the things that I happen
> to consider part of the "notmuch experience", (viewing an entire, nested
> thread at once with citations/signatures elided---this feature comes
> exactly from sup; and my magic space-bar for reading lots of mail with
> only one key---though the most important part here is to not archive a
> message until it is paged *off* the screen---as opposed to many emailers
> that mark a message as "read" as soon as any of the message appears on
> the screen).
> 
> Of course, if you're doing your own interface, then you get to do
> whatever you want. But I hope you might at least consider those ideas.

I am not totally sure about the elusion of citation and signatures, but
that can be an user setting. My favourite feature is not marking
messages as read until one decides to do so. For the rest of the lot,
I agree that they should be there as well.

Best regards,

[1] http://fdm.sourceforge.net/

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Adrian Perez de Castro <aperez@igalia.com>
Igalia - Free Software Engineering

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