From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mp0 ([2001:41d0:2:bcc0::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by ms0.migadu.com with LMTPS id iKmpM24oomClcAEAgWs5BA (envelope-from ) for ; Mon, 17 May 2021 10:25:18 +0200 Received: from aspmx1.migadu.com ([2001:41d0:2:bcc0::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by mp0 with LMTPS id mLFeL24oomBmSgAA1q6Kng (envelope-from ) for ; Mon, 17 May 2021 08:25:18 +0000 Received: from mail.notmuchmail.org (nmbug.tethera.net [144.217.243.247]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by aspmx1.migadu.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8A1F31AC95 for ; Mon, 17 May 2021 10:25:18 +0200 (CEST) Received: from nmbug.tethera.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.notmuchmail.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A7662A9C3; Mon, 17 May 2021 04:25:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail0.khirnov.net (mail0.khirnov.net [IPv6:2001:67c:1138:4304::3]) by mail.notmuchmail.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D3C322903C for ; Mon, 17 May 2021 04:25:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by mail0.khirnov.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CBB54240476; Mon, 17 May 2021 10:25:09 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mail0.khirnov.net ([IPv6:::1]) by localhost (mail0.khirnov.net [IPv6:::1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id TKVJ8oYdnt8H; Mon, 17 May 2021 10:25:07 +0200 (CEST) Received: from lain.red.khirnov.net (lain.red.khirnov.net [IPv6:2001:67c:1138:4306::3]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "lain.red.khirnov.net", Issuer "smtp.khirnov.net SMTP CA" (verified OK)) by mail0.khirnov.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D203024042A; Mon, 17 May 2021 10:25:07 +0200 (CEST) Received: by lain.red.khirnov.net (Postfix, from userid 1000) id B91E216019F; Mon, 17 May 2021 10:25:07 +0200 (CEST) In-Reply-To: <162123679339.5529.18362402287240859724.git@grubix.eu> References: <162116038546.29687.12722695687857643272@lain.red.khirnov.net> <162116372803.55588.12574083715280154635.git@grubix.eu> <162117970935.470262.11733111308148672432@piu> <162118724451.29687.13284058079630704324@lain.red.khirnov.net> <162118943864.470262.9109053349416524142@piu> <162123531198.470262.5054992432062639445@piu> <162123679339.5529.18362402287240859724.git@grubix.eu> Subject: Re: announce: my fork of alot From: Anton Khirnov To: Michael J Gruber , Patrick Totzke , notmuch@notmuchmail.org Date: Mon, 17 May 2021 10:25:07 +0200 Message-ID: <162123990755.29687.9636131234056369469@lain.red.khirnov.net> User-Agent: alot/0.8.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID-Hash: CVZGHS4B3TZO4RBWTKNMHCFAHIHZJMDD X-Message-ID-Hash: CVZGHS4B3TZO4RBWTKNMHCFAHIHZJMDD X-MailFrom: anton@khirnov.net X-Mailman-Rule-Misses: dmarc-mitigation; no-senders; approved; emergency; loop; banned-address; member-moderation; header-match-notmuch.notmuchmail.org-0; nonmember-moderation; administrivia; implicit-dest; max-recipients; max-size; news-moderation; no-subject; suspicious-header X-Mailman-Version: 3.2.1 Precedence: list List-Id: "Use and development of the notmuch mail system." List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yhetil.org; s=key1; t=1621239918; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references:list-id:list-help: list-unsubscribe:list-subscribe:list-post; bh=+xTnk7Gc5jsv+kuwsxAis4dRco5+XQ7ZJmlSYGJClD8=; b=DPGWGPrRzNYV1IhjtyCqR+Y1I5IBfepSyLg/bN5W1+UUric3N0/c2vG30vS9d96ea2ENEe 47r+VMtRSKp9OLdbLl5SABlC1bqKZ0LKwBGRDzj7kxR55+c0RJNHklwRsrKISHg6H7MK7i NM85YTQmAGDAElfzS1HB5DT1wnbw3UIslJg434xgEqDG2qE2ZDsLOl5nlNtSYa061wtFwT zxMpMyEmroC3vYCMLWjQpjio5GDoJEC6jBb84bKwyuyff0mzFNaYKGcKIEfjfnIMOliXQ/ VRLFR6TuI2AWhSTUvAClLgAH5RBfj3OJ22/2bxiKGtJQ9c6EGSGp81l4kEsemA== ARC-Seal: i=1; s=key1; d=yhetil.org; t=1621239918; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=h05WF2SwPTFmWhZ3ug42vFgycyOMKwzbCuvSmDWvId9zVCAb3G/kwGnQnnGd+rW6zqCSmN bT5DA2o+6b/6yHcitRBungKYcWAr/GV9ToqPZfmfLeF4+MJgcgzbKxC+i3z1ov8Ad4Dg8e xLIbdmoNORUj0K7So0P+NeeH+zerH3Nic9fZObM8jQBstyPnymuA8HduoYRN67iQZHnG1M 6XK5Q5kl1HQktjCWLCoLJD/mKrw1Ic8eGiuxAA5X4xc7dORTzNmKktBESfT3Q4d3jzfgt1 RsjKntV5quNxPOCDuoc5FpD50rqvbv+i1qjnmwLcu8GUWvrGlCoig3Jwt5Q29g== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of notmuch-bounces@notmuchmail.org designates 144.217.243.247 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=notmuch-bounces@notmuchmail.org X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -2.07 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of notmuch-bounces@notmuchmail.org designates 144.217.243.247 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=notmuch-bounces@notmuchmail.org X-Migadu-Queue-Id: 8A1F31AC95 X-Spam-Score: -2.07 X-Migadu-Scanner: scn0.migadu.com X-TUID: EyNyQ0nRzYti Quoting Michael J Gruber (2021-05-17 09:33:13) > Patrick Totzke venit, vidit, dixit 2021-05-17 09:08:31: > > ``` > > [~] git clone https://git.khirnov.net/alot.git > > Cloning into 'alot'... > > fatal: unable to access 'https://git.khirnov.net/alot.git/': server certificate verification failed. CAfile: none CRLfile: none > > [~] git clone git://git.khirnov.net/alot.git > > > > Cloning into 'alot'... > > > > (times out) > > ``` > > It is unauthenticated git protocol: > > git clone git://git.khirnov.net/alot.git > > I can fully understand why someone wants to host their personal stuff > for themselves. I still don't understand why a git-fork of a > github-project which asks for upstreaming or collaboration is not at > github - and yes, you can 's/github/yourchoice/' in that sentence ;) Because at this point it is still "my personal stuff". If and when it actually becomes "upstreaming or collaboration", I can also push it elsewhere, as needed. I am not super fundamentalist in my religion. But for the time being I see no big difference between people cloning from my git server vs people cloning my repo on github. -- Anton Khirnov