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* [PATCH] emacs: Show cleaner addresses during message display.
@ 2010-11-05 15:04 David Edmondson
  2010-11-09 17:34 ` David Edmondson
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread
From: David Edmondson @ 2010-11-05 15:04 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: notmuch

Remove double quotes and flatten "foo@bar.com <foo@bar.com>" to
"foo@bar.com".
---
 emacs/notmuch-show.el |   30 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++--
 1 files changed, 28 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-)

diff --git a/emacs/notmuch-show.el b/emacs/notmuch-show.el
index 07cf846..2838968 100644
--- a/emacs/notmuch-show.el
+++ b/emacs/notmuch-show.el
@@ -26,6 +26,7 @@
 (require 'message)
 (require 'mm-decode)
 (require 'mailcap)
+(require 'mail-parse)
 
 (require 'notmuch-lib)
 (require 'notmuch-query)
@@ -204,12 +205,26 @@ same as that of the previous message."
 					     'face 'notmuch-tag-face)
 				 ")"))))))
 
+(defun notmuch-show-clean-address (parsed-address)
+  "Clean a single email address for display."
+  (let ((address (car parsed-address))
+	(name (cdr parsed-address)))
+    ;; If the address is 'foo@bar.com <foo@bar.com>' then show just
+    ;; 'foo@bar.com'.
+    (when (string= name address)
+      (setq name nil))
+
+    (if (not name)
+	address
+      (concat name " <" address ">"))))
+
 (defun notmuch-show-insert-headerline (headers date tags depth)
   "Insert a notmuch style headerline based on HEADERS for a
 message at DEPTH in the current thread."
   (let ((start (point)))
     (insert (notmuch-show-spaces-n depth)
-	    (plist-get headers :From)
+	    (notmuch-show-clean-address
+	     (mail-header-parse-address (plist-get headers :From)))
 	    " ("
 	    date
 	    ") ("
@@ -220,7 +235,18 @@ message at DEPTH in the current thread."
 
 (defun notmuch-show-insert-header (header header-value)
   "Insert a single header."
-  (insert header ": " header-value "\n"))
+  (insert header ": "
+	  (cond
+	   ((or (string= "To" header)
+		(string= "Cc" header)
+		(string= "Bcc" header)
+		(string= "From" header))
+	    (mapconcat 'notmuch-show-clean-address
+		       (mail-header-parse-addresses header-value)
+		       ", "))
+	   (t
+	    header-value))
+	  "\n"))
 
 (defun notmuch-show-insert-headers (headers)
   "Insert the headers of the current message."
-- 
1.7.2.3

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* [PATCH] emacs: Show cleaner addresses during message display.
  2010-11-05 15:04 [PATCH] emacs: Show cleaner addresses during message display David Edmondson
@ 2010-11-09 17:34 ` David Edmondson
  2010-11-09 20:53   ` Jameson Rollins
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread
From: David Edmondson @ 2010-11-09 17:34 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: notmuch

Remove double quotes and flatten "foo@bar.com <foo@bar.com>" to
"foo@bar.com". If the address is of the form "name <foo@bar.com>",
show only 'name' with a tooltip of the address.
---
More aggressive simplification and tooltips.

 emacs/notmuch-show.el |   29 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++--
 1 files changed, 27 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-)

diff --git a/emacs/notmuch-show.el b/emacs/notmuch-show.el
index 9e5d72d..098146b 100644
--- a/emacs/notmuch-show.el
+++ b/emacs/notmuch-show.el
@@ -26,6 +26,7 @@
 (require 'message)
 (require 'mm-decode)
 (require 'mailcap)
+(require 'mail-parse)
 
 (require 'notmuch-lib)
 (require 'notmuch-query)
@@ -198,12 +199,25 @@ any given message."
 					     'face 'notmuch-tag-face)
 				 ")"))))))
 
+(defun notmuch-show-clean-address (parsed-address)
+  "Prepare a single email address for display."
+  (let ((address (car parsed-address))
+	(name (cdr parsed-address)))
+    ;; If the address is 'foo@bar.com <foo@bar.com>' then show just
+    ;; 'foo@bar.com'.
+    (when (string= name address)
+      (setq name nil))
+    (if name
+	(propertize name 'help-echo address)
+	address)))
+
 (defun notmuch-show-insert-headerline (headers date tags depth)
   "Insert a notmuch style headerline based on HEADERS for a
 message at DEPTH in the current thread."
   (let ((start (point)))
     (insert (notmuch-show-spaces-n depth)
-	    (plist-get headers :From)
+	    (notmuch-show-clean-address
+	     (mail-header-parse-address (plist-get headers :From)))
 	    " ("
 	    date
 	    ") ("
@@ -214,7 +228,18 @@ message at DEPTH in the current thread."
 
 (defun notmuch-show-insert-header (header header-value)
   "Insert a single header."
-  (insert header ": " header-value "\n"))
+  (insert header ": "
+	  (cond
+	   ((or (string= "To" header)
+		(string= "Cc" header)
+		(string= "Bcc" header)
+		(string= "From" header))
+	    (mapconcat 'notmuch-show-clean-address
+		       (mail-header-parse-addresses header-value)
+		       ", "))
+	   (t
+	    header-value))
+	  "\n"))
 
 (defun notmuch-show-insert-headers (headers)
   "Insert the headers of the current message."
-- 
1.7.2.3

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* Re: [PATCH] emacs: Show cleaner addresses during message display.
  2010-11-09 17:34 ` David Edmondson
@ 2010-11-09 20:53   ` Jameson Rollins
  2010-11-10  7:20     ` Sebastian Spaeth
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread
From: Jameson Rollins @ 2010-11-09 20:53 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: David Edmondson, notmuch

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On Tue,  9 Nov 2010 17:34:50 +0000, David Edmondson <dme@dme.org> wrote:
> Remove double quotes and flatten "foo@bar.com <foo@bar.com>" to
> "foo@bar.com". If the address is of the form "name <foo@bar.com>",
> show only 'name' with a tooltip of the address.

Hi, David.  I am personally not interested in this collapse for a couple
of reasons.  I really like seeing the full address that the mail comes
from.  I also don't like tooltips since I don't like using the mouse.
Is it possible to make this particular feature an option?

I actually frequently yank this whole line to ease filling my address
book.

jamie.

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* Re: [PATCH] emacs: Show cleaner addresses during message display.
  2010-11-09 20:53   ` Jameson Rollins
@ 2010-11-10  7:20     ` Sebastian Spaeth
  2010-11-10  8:27       ` David Edmondson
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread
From: Sebastian Spaeth @ 2010-11-10  7:20 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Jameson Rollins, David Edmondson, notmuch

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On Tue, 09 Nov 2010 15:53:49 -0500, Jameson Rollins wrote:
> Hi, David.  I am personally not interested in this collapse for a couple
> of reasons.  I really like seeing the full address that the mail comes
> from.
But what is the added benefit of 
"me@foo.com" <me@foo.com>
over 
me@foo.com
? This is essentially a nonsense name that can just as well be left
out...

>  I also don't like tooltips since I don't like using the mouse.
> Is it possible to make this particular feature an option?

If you don't use a mouse, how does the existence of tooltips annoy you?
 
> I actually frequently yank this whole line to ease filling my address
> book.

But what is the point of having "me@foo.com" <me@foo.com> in your
address book, can't you just as well say "me@foo.com" without loosing
information?

Anyway, I don't care strongly either way. I have just gotten very
careful in adding new preferences rather than setting sensible defaults
:).

Sebastian

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* Re: [PATCH] emacs: Show cleaner addresses during message display.
  2010-11-10  7:20     ` Sebastian Spaeth
@ 2010-11-10  8:27       ` David Edmondson
  2010-11-10  9:17         ` Sebastian Spaeth
  2010-11-10  9:23         ` David Edmondson
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 9+ messages in thread
From: David Edmondson @ 2010-11-10  8:27 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Sebastian Spaeth, Jameson Rollins, notmuch

On Wed, 10 Nov 2010 08:20:29 +0100, Sebastian Spaeth <Sebastian@SSpaeth.de> wrote:
> On Tue, 09 Nov 2010 15:53:49 -0500, Jameson Rollins wrote:
> > Hi, David.  I am personally not interested in this collapse for a couple
> > of reasons.  I really like seeing the full address that the mail comes
> > from.
> But what is the added benefit of 
> "me@foo.com" <me@foo.com>
> over 
> me@foo.com
> ? This is essentially a nonsense name that can just as well be left
> out...
> 
> >  I also don't like tooltips since I don't like using the mouse.
> > Is it possible to make this particular feature an option?
> 
> If you don't use a mouse, how does the existence of tooltips annoy you?
>  
> > I actually frequently yank this whole line to ease filling my address
> > book.
> 
> But what is the point of having "me@foo.com" <me@foo.com> in your
> address book, can't you just as well say "me@foo.com" without loosing
> information?

The latest change goes further - for an address such as:
	Fred Blogs <fred@fredco.com>
it will display only "Fred Blogs". It's to this that Jameson is objecting.

I'll update the patch such that you can choose, with the default being
the maximum simplification.

dme.
-- 
David Edmondson, http://dme.org

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* Re: [PATCH] emacs: Show cleaner addresses during message display.
  2010-11-10  8:27       ` David Edmondson
@ 2010-11-10  9:17         ` Sebastian Spaeth
  2010-11-10  9:23         ` David Edmondson
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 9+ messages in thread
From: Sebastian Spaeth @ 2010-11-10  9:17 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: David Edmondson, Jameson Rollins, notmuch

On Wed, 10 Nov 2010 08:27:08 +0000, David Edmondson <dme@dme.org> wrote:
> The latest change goes further - for an address such as:
> 	Fred Blogs <fred@fredco.com>
> it will display only "Fred Blogs". It's to this that Jameson is objecting.

Ohh, I see. Sorry then. I can see that someone wants to retain
that. 

Addressbooks are so 20th century anyway, I have notmuch-based
address lookup :).

Sebastian

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* [PATCH] emacs: Show cleaner addresses during message display.
  2010-11-10  8:27       ` David Edmondson
  2010-11-10  9:17         ` Sebastian Spaeth
@ 2010-11-10  9:23         ` David Edmondson
  2010-11-12  1:14           ` Carl Worth
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread
From: David Edmondson @ 2010-11-10  9:23 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: notmuch

Simplify the display of addresses by setting
`notmuch-show-address-simplication' to:

- 'full: Only the name component of the address, if present, is
  shown (the default),
- 'partial: Addresses are stripped of redundant information,
- 'none: Addresses are shown as-is.
---
 emacs/notmuch-show.el |   55 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++-
 1 files changed, 53 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-)

diff --git a/emacs/notmuch-show.el b/emacs/notmuch-show.el
index 9e5d72d..054aba1 100644
--- a/emacs/notmuch-show.el
+++ b/emacs/notmuch-show.el
@@ -26,6 +26,7 @@
 (require 'message)
 (require 'mm-decode)
 (require 'mailcap)
+(require 'mail-parse)
 
 (require 'notmuch-lib)
 (require 'notmuch-query)
@@ -82,6 +83,21 @@ any given message."
 	     notmuch-wash-elide-blank-lines
 	     notmuch-wash-excerpt-citations))
 
+(defcustom notmuch-show-address-simplification 'full
+  "How should addresses be displayed?
+
+Set `notmuch-show-address-simplication' to:
+
+- 'full: Only the name component of the address, if present, is
+  shown,
+- 'partial: Addresses are stripped of redundant information,
+- 'none: Addresses are shown as-is."
+  :group 'notmuch
+  :type '(choice
+	  (const :tag "Full simplification" full)
+	  (const :tag "Partial simplification" partial)
+	  (const :tag "No simplification" none)))
+
 (defmacro with-current-notmuch-show-message (&rest body)
   "Evaluate body with current buffer set to the text of current message"
   `(save-excursion
@@ -198,12 +214,36 @@ any given message."
 					     'face 'notmuch-tag-face)
 				 ")"))))))
 
+(defun notmuch-show-clean-address (parsed-address)
+  "Prepare a single email address for display."
+  (let* ((address (car parsed-address))
+	 (name (cdr parsed-address))
+	 (displayed-name name))
+
+    ;; If the address is 'foo@bar.com <foo@bar.com>' then show just
+    ;; 'foo@bar.com'.
+    (when (string= displayed-name address)
+      (setq displayed-name nil))
+
+    (cond
+     ((eq notmuch-show-address-simplification 'full)
+      (if displayed-name
+	  (propertize displayed-name 'help-echo address)
+	address))
+
+     ((eq notmuch-show-address-simplification 'partial)
+      (mail-header-make-address displayed-name address))
+
+     (t ;; All other settings, but mostly 'none.
+      (mail-header-make-address name address)))))
+
 (defun notmuch-show-insert-headerline (headers date tags depth)
   "Insert a notmuch style headerline based on HEADERS for a
 message at DEPTH in the current thread."
   (let ((start (point)))
     (insert (notmuch-show-spaces-n depth)
-	    (plist-get headers :From)
+	    (notmuch-show-clean-address
+	     (mail-header-parse-address (plist-get headers :From)))
 	    " ("
 	    date
 	    ") ("
@@ -214,7 +254,18 @@ message at DEPTH in the current thread."
 
 (defun notmuch-show-insert-header (header header-value)
   "Insert a single header."
-  (insert header ": " header-value "\n"))
+  (insert header ": "
+	  (cond
+	   ((or (string= "To" header)
+		(string= "Cc" header)
+		(string= "Bcc" header)
+		(string= "From" header))
+	    (mapconcat 'notmuch-show-clean-address
+		       (mail-header-parse-addresses header-value)
+		       ", "))
+	   (t
+	    header-value))
+	  "\n"))
 
 (defun notmuch-show-insert-headers (headers)
   "Insert the headers of the current message."
-- 
1.7.2.3

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* Re: [PATCH] emacs: Show cleaner addresses during message display.
  2010-11-10  9:23         ` David Edmondson
@ 2010-11-12  1:14           ` Carl Worth
  2010-11-12  7:58             ` David Edmondson
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread
From: Carl Worth @ 2010-11-12  1:14 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: David Edmondson, notmuch

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On Wed, 10 Nov 2010 09:23:07 +0000, David Edmondson <dme@dme.org> wrote:
> Simplify the display of addresses by setting
> `notmuch-show-address-simplication' to:
> 
> - 'full: Only the name component of the address, if present, is
>   shown (the default),
> - 'partial: Addresses are stripped of redundant information,
> - 'none: Addresses are shown as-is.

Now that we've got emacs-based testing, this change needs to update the
test suite as well.

Personally, I like to see email addresses, and I think that's a sane
default, so I'd actually prefer 'partial as the default setting here.

I tried changing that and hoped that that would let me not even update
the test suite. But then I found that comapred to the current state,
adding this patch actually adds unnecessary double-quotation marks
around user's names. That's annoying.

Can we get that cleaned up?

Meanwhile, I just pushed your three patches for cleaning up the display
of subjects[*]. So, thanks!

-Carl

[*] None of these needed test-suite changes, which actually just points
out holes in our test suite here.

-- 
carl.d.worth@intel.com

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* [PATCH] emacs: Show cleaner addresses during message display.
  2010-11-12  1:14           ` Carl Worth
@ 2010-11-12  7:58             ` David Edmondson
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 9+ messages in thread
From: David Edmondson @ 2010-11-12  7:58 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: notmuch

Simplify the display of addresses by setting
`notmuch-show-address-simplication' to:

- 'full: Only the name component of the address, if present, is
  shown,
- 'partial: Addresses are stripped of redundant information (the
  default),
- 'none: Addresses are shown as-is.

`mail-header-parse-address' fails for some addresses, in particular
"undisclosed-recipients:;". Accommodate this by returning the original
address if the parser fails.

Adjust the test results accordingly.
---

Default is now 'partial (most similar to the old behaviour). Allow for
un-parseable addresses. Don't add unnecessary quotes. Oh, and, fix the
test suite.

Carl: You can ignore the notmuch-lkml.el chunk, as you don't have that
yet.

 emacs/notmuch-lkml.el                              |    4 +-
 emacs/notmuch-show.el                              |   65 +++++++++++++++++++-
 .../notmuch-show-thread-maildir-storage            |    6 +-
 3 files changed, 68 insertions(+), 7 deletions(-)

diff --git a/emacs/notmuch-lkml.el b/emacs/notmuch-lkml.el
index 750370b..fc04be6 100644
--- a/emacs/notmuch-lkml.el
+++ b/emacs/notmuch-lkml.el
@@ -29,7 +29,7 @@
 (declare-function notmuch-call-notmuch-process "notmuch" (&rest args))
 (declare-function notmuch-show "notmuch-show" (&rest args))
 (declare-function notmuch-show-strip-re "notmuch-show" (subject))
-(declare-function notmuch-show-clean-address "notmuch-show" (parsed-address))
+(declare-function notmuch-show-clean-address "notmuch-show" (address))
 (declare-function notmuch-show-spaces-n "notmuch-show" (n))
 
 (defcustom notmuch-lkml-author-width 30
@@ -71,7 +71,7 @@
 	     (notmuch-lkml-string-width 
 	      (concat (notmuch-show-spaces-n depth)
 		      (notmuch-show-clean-address
-		       (mail-header-parse-address (plist-get headers :From))))
+		       (plist-get headers :From)))
 	      notmuch-lkml-author-width)
 	     " "
 	     (if (string= notmuch-lkml-previous-subject
diff --git a/emacs/notmuch-show.el b/emacs/notmuch-show.el
index d8773e6..aa89cfd 100644
--- a/emacs/notmuch-show.el
+++ b/emacs/notmuch-show.el
@@ -26,6 +26,7 @@
 (require 'message)
 (require 'mm-decode)
 (require 'mailcap)
+(require 'mail-parse)
 
 (require 'notmuch-lib)
 (require 'notmuch-query)
@@ -82,6 +83,21 @@ any given message."
 	     notmuch-wash-elide-blank-lines
 	     notmuch-wash-excerpt-citations))
 
+(defcustom notmuch-show-address-simplification 'partial
+  "How should addresses be displayed?
+
+Set `notmuch-show-address-simplication' to:
+
+- 'full: Only the name component of the address, if present, is
+  shown,
+- 'partial: Addresses are stripped of redundant information,
+- 'none: Addresses are shown as-is."
+  :group 'notmuch
+  :type '(choice
+	  (const :tag "Full simplification" full)
+	  (const :tag "Partial simplification" partial)
+	  (const :tag "No simplification" none)))
+
 (defmacro with-current-notmuch-show-message (&rest body)
   "Evaluate body with current buffer set to the text of current message"
   `(save-excursion
@@ -198,12 +214,46 @@ any given message."
 					     'face 'notmuch-tag-face)
 				 ")"))))))
 
+(defun notmuch-show-clean-address (original-address)
+  "Prepare a single email address for display."
+  (let* ((parsed-address (mail-header-parse-address original-address))
+	 (address (car parsed-address))
+	 (name (cdr parsed-address))
+	 (displayed-name name))
+
+    ;; If the parser failed, use the original string.
+    (if (not parsed-address)
+	original-address
+
+      ;; If the address is 'foo@bar.com <foo@bar.com>' then show just
+      ;; 'foo@bar.com'.
+      (when (string= displayed-name address)
+	(setq displayed-name nil))
+
+      (cond
+       ((eq notmuch-show-address-simplification 'full)
+	(if displayed-name
+	    (propertize displayed-name 'help-echo address)
+	  address))
+
+       ((eq notmuch-show-address-simplification 'partial)
+	(if displayed-name
+	    ;; `mail-header-make-address' is enthusiastic about
+	    ;; quoting the displayed name if it contains spaces (which
+	    ;; is visually unappealing) so generate the displayed
+	    ;; string directly here.
+	    (concat displayed-name " <" address ">")
+	  address))
+
+       (t ;; All other settings, but mostly 'none.
+	original-address)))))
+
 (defun notmuch-show-insert-headerline (headers date tags depth)
   "Insert a notmuch style headerline based on HEADERS for a
 message at DEPTH in the current thread."
   (let ((start (point)))
     (insert (notmuch-show-spaces-n depth)
-	    (plist-get headers :From)
+	    (notmuch-show-clean-address (plist-get headers :From))
 	    " ("
 	    date
 	    ") ("
@@ -214,7 +264,18 @@ message at DEPTH in the current thread."
 
 (defun notmuch-show-insert-header (header header-value)
   "Insert a single header."
-  (insert header ": " header-value "\n"))
+  (insert header ": "
+	  (cond
+	   ((or (string= "To" header)
+		(string= "Cc" header)
+		(string= "Bcc" header)
+		(string= "From" header))
+	    (mapconcat 'notmuch-show-clean-address
+		       (mail-header-parse-addresses header-value t)
+		       ", "))
+	   (t
+	    header-value))
+	  "\n"))
 
 (defun notmuch-show-insert-headers (headers)
   "Insert the headers of the current message."
diff --git a/test/emacs.expected-output/notmuch-show-thread-maildir-storage b/test/emacs.expected-output/notmuch-show-thread-maildir-storage
index 086f874..2f18924 100644
--- a/test/emacs.expected-output/notmuch-show-thread-maildir-storage
+++ b/test/emacs.expected-output/notmuch-show-thread-maildir-storage
@@ -92,7 +92,7 @@ http://notmuchmail.org/mailman/listinfo/notmuch
   notmuch mailing list
   notmuch@notmuchmail.org
   http://notmuchmail.org/mailman/listinfo/notmuch
-   "Mikhail Gusarov" <dottedmag@dottedmag.net> (2009-11-17) (inbox unread)
+   Mikhail Gusarov <dottedmag@dottedmag.net> (2009-11-17) (inbox unread)
    Subject: [notmuch] Working with Maildir storage?
    To: notmuch@notmuchmail.org
    Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 02:50:48 +0600
@@ -120,7 +120,7 @@ http://notmuchmail.org/mailman/listinfo/notmuch
    Desc: not available
    URL: <http://notmuchmail.org/pipermail/notmuch/attachments/20091118/0e33d964/attachment.pgp>
 
-   "Keith Packard" <keithp@keithp.com> (2009-11-17) (inbox unread)
+   Keith Packard <keithp@keithp.com> (2009-11-17) (inbox unread)
    Subject: [notmuch] Working with Maildir storage?
    To: notmuch@notmuchmail.org
    Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 13:24:13 -0800
@@ -167,7 +167,7 @@ http://notmuchmail.org/mailman/listinfo/notmuch
     notmuch mailing list
     notmuch@notmuchmail.org
     http://notmuchmail.org/mailman/listinfo/notmuch
- "Carl Worth" <cworth@cworth.org> (2009-11-18) (inbox unread)
+ Carl Worth <cworth@cworth.org> (2009-11-18) (inbox unread)
  Subject: [notmuch] Working with Maildir storage?
  To: notmuch@notmuchmail.org
  Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 02:08:10 -0800
-- 
1.7.2.3

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2010-11-09 20:53   ` Jameson Rollins
2010-11-10  7:20     ` Sebastian Spaeth
2010-11-10  8:27       ` David Edmondson
2010-11-10  9:17         ` Sebastian Spaeth
2010-11-10  9:23         ` David Edmondson
2010-11-12  1:14           ` Carl Worth
2010-11-12  7:58             ` David Edmondson

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