From: Konstantin Ryabitsev <konstantin@linuxfoundation.org>
To: Eric Wong <e@80x24.org>
Cc: meta@public-inbox.org
Subject: Re: lei-managed pseudo mailing lists
Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2021 14:20:20 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20210426182020.olonbxkc6a2gfzl3@nitro.local> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20210426173726.GA22986@dcvr>
On Mon, Apr 26, 2021 at 05:37:26PM +0000, Eric Wong wrote:
> > The latter is specifically something I think would be of interest to kernel
> > folks, so I envision that we'd have something like the following:
> >
> > - a maintainer publishes a configuration file we can pass to lei
>
> The command-line might be enough, the pathname of the current
> state/config file is a bit tricky and tied to its output.
> I suppose "lei import-search" can be a command, though...
Excellent, excellent. How well does it deal with the situation when the search
parameters change?
> > - our backend lei process uses all of lore.kernel.org sources to create and
> > continuously update a new public-inbox repository with matching search
> > results
>
> There's already some accomodations for that in LeiSavedSearch
> which can present itself as a PublicInbox::Inbox-ish object to
> PublicInbox::WWW (untested).
>
> Searching an within LSS isn't implemented, yet, but I think it's
> doable w/o extra Xapian storage.
>
> However, git object storage isn't duplicated, which is nice for
> local use (instaweb-like), but supporting clone/fetch isn't as
> natural...
I'm thinking we need the ability to make it a real clonable repository --
perhaps without its own xapian index? Actual git repositories aren't large,
especially if they are only used for direct git operations. Disk space is
cheap, it's the IO that's expensive. :)
If these are real clonable repositories, then it would be easy for people to
set up replication for just the curated content people want.
> Perhaps supporting a v2 inbox as an lei q output destination
> is in order:
>
> lei q --output v2publicinbox:/path/to/v2 --shared SEARCH_TERMS
>
> --shared would be "git clone --shared", the new v2 inbox can
> use ~/.cache/lei/all_locals_ever.git/ as an alternate and not
> duplicate space for blobs.
Not really worried about deduping blobs, but I'm wondering how to make it work
well when search parameters change (see above). E.g.:
1. we create the repo with one set of parameters
2. maintainer then broadens it up to include something else
3. maintainer then decides that it's now *way* too much and narrows it down again
We don't really want step 2 to lead to a permanent ballooning of the
repository, so perhaps all query changes should force-append a dt: with the
open-ended datetime of the change? Or do you already have a way to deal with
this situation?
> > - we set up a mlmmj list that doesn't receive any direct mail but is only fed
> > from saved search results; people can subscribe/unsubscribe as they would
> > with any other mlmmj list
> >
> > Any particular reason this wouldn't work?
>
> Nope :) As long as all the data formats can interoperate
> (mostly RFC5322/2822). "lei convert" is nice, too :)
Great! I believe this will help untangle the current situation with "where
should I send this kernel patch".
I want "just send it to linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" to be a valid option
again. Participating subsystems can then define what patches they want to see
by setting up pseudo-lists and letting participating reviewers/maintainers
subscribe to them via their preferred mail delivery mechanism.
-K
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2021-04-26 18:20 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 6+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2021-04-26 16:44 lei-managed pseudo mailing lists Konstantin Ryabitsev
2021-04-26 17:37 ` Eric Wong
2021-04-26 18:20 ` Konstantin Ryabitsev [this message]
2021-04-26 18:47 ` Eric Wong
2021-04-26 19:46 ` Konstantin Ryabitsev
2021-04-26 20:34 ` Eric Wong
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