From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on dcvr.yhbt.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.0 required=3.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00 shortcircuit=no autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 Received: from localhost (dcvr.yhbt.net [127.0.0.1]) by dcvr.yhbt.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4DAE81F55B; Fri, 5 Jun 2020 23:27:58 +0000 (UTC) Date: Fri, 5 Jun 2020 23:27:57 +0000 From: Eric Wong To: Varun Varada Cc: meta@public-inbox.org Subject: Re: [Patch] Update 24-hour times to use two digits for the hour Message-ID: <20200605232757.GA28110@dcvr> References: <20200605220321.GA17860@dcvr> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: List-Id: Varun Varada wrote: > Hi Eric, > > The "why?" is that leading zeroes are standard for virtually any > 24-hour clock in the world > (https://www.google.com/search?q=24-hour+time). This is even codified > in the ISO 8601 standard > (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISO_8601#Times), which the project > seems to be following. Without a leading zero, a user immediately > expects an a.m./p.m. modifier, which there is not. Sorry, but no. This project does NOT blindly follow ISO-8601 or such standards when it comes to output intended for humans. I admit the lack of AM/PM could be confusing at first in standalone cases; but someone needs to learn that exactly once. What I care more about is repeated tasks. Making users focus their eyes and waste energy parsing date and times for every single thread they look at is much worse than training them for one thing. Take for example: https://public-inbox.org/git/20200222201749.937983-1-sandals@crustytoothpaste.net/T/#t 2020-02-24 18:26 ` Junio C Hamano 2020-02-25 10:29 ` Johannes Schindelin 2020-02-25 19:25 ` Junio C Hamano 2020-02-26 3:05 ` brian m. carlson 2020-02-26 3:11 ` Junio C Hamano 2020-02-26 2:23 ` brian m. carlson 2020-02-27 13:24 ` Johannes Schindelin 2020-02-27 15:06 ` Junio C Hamano With the leading space instead of zero, my eyes don't even need to be in focus to know the replies from 2-26 were on a different day than the rest. The shape of the text is enough to tell, I don't have to bring my eyes into focus to know that.