* Re: Draft of Git Rev News edition 18
[not found] ` <9f3b254f-451e-4f6d-233c-7e995d8e369e@gmail.com>
@ 2016-08-16 9:30 ` Eric Wong
2016-08-16 9:34 ` Josh Triplett
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From: Eric Wong @ 2016-08-16 9:30 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Jakub Narębski
Cc: Philip Oakley, Christian Couder, git, Thomas Ferris Nicolaisen,
Nicola Paolucci, Junio C Hamano, Jeff King, Nguyen Thai Ngoc Duy,
Stefan Beller, Michael Haggerty, Ramsay Jones, remi galan-alfonso,
Johannes Sixt, Torsten Bögershausen, Josh Triplett,
Lars Schneider, meta
Jakub Narębski <jnareb@gmail.com> wrote:
> It's a great pity that https://public-inbox.org/ is just
> directory index, not a true home page.
+Cc meta@public-inbox.org
I'm not sure one could do better while staying true to the
minimalist nature of plain-text email.
In the spirit of decentralization, there may not be /a/
homepage, but many. Everything is meant to clonable with each
public-inbox, so maybe every public-inbox will have a code
branch attached to it with the source+docs bundled.
At least for now, other pages are more easily discoverable[1]
but one day I hope to have repobrowse[2] running there (and
maybe everywhere).
For now, I am prioritizing user/admin/hacker documentation so
more instances can exist. I'll probably get some online help
stuff up tomorrow.
[1] at least the top-level of public-inbox.org already has more
content than both YHBT.net and bogomips.org combined :)
[2] git clone -b repobrowse https://public-inbox.org/ ...
(idle the moment: think cgit|gitweb with the same (lack of)
style as public-inbox, +search, +mail thread integration)
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* Re: Draft of Git Rev News edition 18
2016-08-16 9:30 ` Draft of Git Rev News edition 18 Eric Wong
@ 2016-08-16 9:34 ` Josh Triplett
2016-08-16 21:27 ` Eric Wong
0 siblings, 1 reply; 5+ messages in thread
From: Josh Triplett @ 2016-08-16 9:34 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Eric Wong
Cc: Jakub Narębski, Philip Oakley, Christian Couder, git,
Thomas Ferris Nicolaisen, Nicola Paolucci, Junio C Hamano,
Jeff King, Nguyen Thai Ngoc Duy, Stefan Beller, Michael Haggerty,
Ramsay Jones, remi galan-alfonso, Johannes Sixt,
Torsten Bögershausen, Lars Schneider, meta
On Tue, Aug 16, 2016 at 09:30:27AM +0000, Eric Wong wrote:
> Jakub Narębski <jnareb@gmail.com> wrote:
> > It's a great pity that https://public-inbox.org/ is just
> > directory index, not a true home page.
>
> +Cc meta@public-inbox.org
>
> I'm not sure one could do better while staying true to the
> minimalist nature of plain-text email.
>
> In the spirit of decentralization, there may not be /a/
> homepage, but many. Everything is meant to clonable with each
> public-inbox, so maybe every public-inbox will have a code
> branch attached to it with the source+docs bundled.
It'd be nice if it had a prominent list of all lists available; as far
as I can tell, the main page has no link to /git/.
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* Re: Draft of Git Rev News edition 18
2016-08-16 9:34 ` Josh Triplett
@ 2016-08-16 21:27 ` Eric Wong
2016-08-16 22:32 ` Josh Triplett
0 siblings, 1 reply; 5+ messages in thread
From: Eric Wong @ 2016-08-16 21:27 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Josh Triplett
Cc: Jakub Narębski, Philip Oakley, Christian Couder, git,
Thomas Ferris Nicolaisen, Nicola Paolucci, Junio C Hamano,
Jeff King, Nguyen Thai Ngoc Duy, Stefan Beller, Michael Haggerty,
Ramsay Jones, remi galan-alfonso, Johannes Sixt,
Torsten Bögershausen, Lars Schneider, meta
Josh Triplett <josh@joshtriplett.org> wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 16, 2016 at 09:30:27AM +0000, Eric Wong wrote:
> > Jakub Narębski <jnareb@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > It's a great pity that https://public-inbox.org/ is just
> > > directory index, not a true home page.
> >
> > +Cc meta@public-inbox.org
> >
> > I'm not sure one could do better while staying true to the
> > minimalist nature of plain-text email.
> >
> > In the spirit of decentralization, there may not be /a/
> > homepage, but many. Everything is meant to clonable with each
> > public-inbox, so maybe every public-inbox will have a code
> > branch attached to it with the source+docs bundled.
>
> It'd be nice if it had a prominent list of all lists available; as far
> as I can tell, the main page has no link to /git/.
I'm not sure that's necessary; most of the traffic seems to come
from /git/MESSAGE_ID/ links posted by others. So it's
probably more inside-out exposure than anything.
As for other projects, I'm not aware of anybody else using it,
yet. I have some small projects using it, but most of those are
one-off throwaways and I'm not comfortable promoting those along
with public-inbox. I admit: I'm not comfortable promoting
anything I do, really.
I do wish more people would start using the .onions, though...
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* Re: Draft of Git Rev News edition 18
2016-08-16 21:27 ` Eric Wong
@ 2016-08-16 22:32 ` Josh Triplett
2016-09-07 1:08 ` Eric Wong
0 siblings, 1 reply; 5+ messages in thread
From: Josh Triplett @ 2016-08-16 22:32 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Eric Wong
Cc: Jakub Narębski, Philip Oakley, Christian Couder, git,
Thomas Ferris Nicolaisen, Nicola Paolucci, Junio C Hamano,
Jeff King, Nguyen Thai Ngoc Duy, Stefan Beller, Michael Haggerty,
Ramsay Jones, remi galan-alfonso, Johannes Sixt,
Torsten Bögershausen, Lars Schneider, meta
On Tue, Aug 16, 2016 at 09:27:04PM +0000, Eric Wong wrote:
> Josh Triplett <josh@joshtriplett.org> wrote:
> > On Tue, Aug 16, 2016 at 09:30:27AM +0000, Eric Wong wrote:
> > > Jakub Narębski <jnareb@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > It's a great pity that https://public-inbox.org/ is just
> > > > directory index, not a true home page.
> > >
> > > +Cc meta@public-inbox.org
> > >
> > > I'm not sure one could do better while staying true to the
> > > minimalist nature of plain-text email.
> > >
> > > In the spirit of decentralization, there may not be /a/
> > > homepage, but many. Everything is meant to clonable with each
> > > public-inbox, so maybe every public-inbox will have a code
> > > branch attached to it with the source+docs bundled.
> >
> > It'd be nice if it had a prominent list of all lists available; as far
> > as I can tell, the main page has no link to /git/.
>
> I'm not sure that's necessary; most of the traffic seems to come
> from /git/MESSAGE_ID/ links posted by others. So it's
> probably more inside-out exposure than anything.
If someone hears about public-inbox, it's nice to know what other lists
they can use it for.
> As for other projects, I'm not aware of anybody else using it,
> yet. I have some small projects using it, but most of those are
> one-off throwaways and I'm not comfortable promoting those along
> with public-inbox. I admit: I'm not comfortable promoting
> anything I do, really.
Please take this as encouragement to do so. I'd love to see the
public-inbox equivalent to the main page of https://lists.debian.org/ ,
as an example. (And I'd love to have public-inbox archives of Debian
mailing lists.)
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* Re: Draft of Git Rev News edition 18
2016-08-16 22:32 ` Josh Triplett
@ 2016-09-07 1:08 ` Eric Wong
0 siblings, 0 replies; 5+ messages in thread
From: Eric Wong @ 2016-09-07 1:08 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Josh Triplett
Cc: Jakub Narębski, Philip Oakley, Christian Couder, git,
Thomas Ferris Nicolaisen, Nicola Paolucci, Junio C Hamano,
Jeff King, Nguyen Thai Ngoc Duy, Stefan Beller, Michael Haggerty,
Ramsay Jones, remi galan-alfonso, Johannes Sixt,
Torsten Bögershausen, Lars Schneider, meta
Josh Triplett <josh@joshtriplett.org> wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 16, 2016 at 09:27:04PM +0000, Eric Wong wrote:
> > As for other projects, I'm not aware of anybody else using it,
> > yet. I have some small projects using it, but most of those are
> > one-off throwaways and I'm not comfortable promoting those along
> > with public-inbox. I admit: I'm not comfortable promoting
> > anything I do, really.
>
> Please take this as encouragement to do so. I'd love to see the
> public-inbox equivalent to the main page of https://lists.debian.org/ ,
> as an example. (And I'd love to have public-inbox archives of Debian
> mailing lists.)
Just pushed out some POD (which should build to manpages),
so maybe early adopters can start hosting mirrors themselves(*).
https://public-inbox.org/meta/20160907004907.1479-1-e@80x24.org/
I hope public-inbox-overview(7) is a good starting point
(along with the existing INSTALL) and there'll be more docs
coming at some point...
Writing documentation tends to make my attention span drift all
over the place; so maybe parts don't make sense or were glossed
over, but I'll be glad to help clarify anything. (Responding
to emails is generally easier for me since I can answer things
specifically, tough to do for generic docs)
I'll try to get a tarball release out soonish,
but my schedule is unpredictable.
(*) None of the code has had any security audit, yet;
and there's no warranty of course.
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