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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Guix-devel" X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -3.06 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=web.de header.s=dbaedf251592 header.b=Q9Vo33ZJ; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=web.de; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of guix-devel-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=guix-devel-bounces@gnu.org X-Migadu-Queue-Id: 41AFD9403A6 X-Spam-Score: -3.06 X-Migadu-Scanner: scn1.migadu.com X-TUID: PVIMuirdmo2q Am Thu, 14 Jan 2021 09:39:41 +0100, Mathieu Othacehe schrieb: > First, I still need to connect the four overdrives machine to the new > Cuirass remote building mechanism, and I would need some help for that > (asked on guix-sysadmins). But, I'm not sure it will much improve the > situation. > > Longer term, we need to figure out a better solution. It's now > obvious that we do not have the computation power to build all our > branches for 5 different architectures, relying heavily on emulation for > armhf and aarch64. Anyone knows how Nix deals with that? I can not speak for Nix, but openSUSE has around 10 more or less powerful = ARM servers for native building. See https://build.opensuse.org/monitor Some weeks ago i did some research on ARM servers. TL;DR There are some op= tions, even fast ones, but its not easy to found shops who sell them and h= ave them in stock... =2D- Sent from Ubuntu Touch