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FTR, no, i haven't yet. the reason is that i still haven't internalized a model of how grafting works. i'm happy to refocus my attention to grafting if someone with a better bird's eye view perspective tells me that it's the preferred solution in this context. your pointer is much appreciated, though! and recorded in my notes, too. -- =E2=80=A2 attila lendvai =E2=80=A2 PGP: 963F 5D5F 45C7 DFCD 0A39 -- =E2=80=9CSurprise exists in the map, not in the territory.=E2=80=9D =09=E2=80=94 Eliezer Yudkowsky (1979=E2=80=93)