shepherd: failing test: should `herd stop` stop a respawning process?

shepherd: failing test: should `herd stop` stop a respawning process?

[Attila Lendvai]

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i have a daemon process that quits soon after it starts (when it has some issue with its configurations).

then i usually fix the config, and do a guix system reconfigure. but i have noticed from the logs that this process often remains in a resawn loop, even if i herd stop and herd disable it after the reconfigure (i.e. a shepherd service upgrade).

i have attached a respawn2.sh that when put under tests/ reproduces the issue in a shepherd checkout (see the TODO notes):

$ guix shell
$ make check TESTS="tests/respawn2.sh"

what's wrong?
 - is it my expectation that herd stop should stop the respawning loop?

 - do i have a bug in my test.sh?

 - is this a shepherd bug? if so, then shall i finish up this test case as a proper patch for shepherd?

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Re: shepherd: failing test: should `herd stop` stop a respawning process?

[Felix Lechner via Development of GNU Guix and the GNU System distribution.]

Hi Attila,

On Sun, Oct 06 2024, Attila Lendvai wrote:

>  - my expectation that herd stop should stop the respawning loop?

My sense is that the Shepherd and systemd always restart services.  I
don't think they know whether a failure relates to configuration or to
something else, but they could probably measure the rate of failure and
stop at some point.

You can mark services as "one-shot."  They are not restarted.  Maybe
that setting is helpful until your configuration is working.

Kind regards
Felix

Re: shepherd: failing test: should `herd stop` stop a respawning process?

[Ludovic Courtès]

Hi,

Attila Lendvai <attila@lendvai.name> skribis:

> i have a daemon process that quits soon after it starts (when it has some issue with its configurations).
>
> then i usually fix the config, and do a guix system reconfigure. but i have noticed from the logs that this process often remains in a resawn loop, even if i herd stop and herd disable it after the reconfigure (i.e. a shepherd service upgrade).

If it’s in a respawn loop, the problem is that ‘herd stop’ may or may
not happen at the right moment, because the service oscillates between
the stopped/starting/running/stopping statuses.

However, ‘herd disable’ should prevent it from being respawned.
(Respawning calls ‘start-service’, which cannot start a service marked
as disabled.)

But I don’t know, there could be a bug.  Could you come up with a
reduced test case (I looked at the one attached but I’m not sure which
part to focus on), or do you have logs of the problem?

Thanks,
Ludo’.

Re: shepherd: failing test: should `herd stop` stop a respawning process?

[Attila Lendvai]

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> But I don’t know, there could be a bug. Could you come up with a
> reduced test case (I looked at the one attached but I’m not sure which
> part to focus on), or do you have logs of the problem?


ok, i've attached a stipped down version of the test case. it hopefully reproduces the same situation i'm observing on my servers.

which seems to be the following:

  1. i have a service that keeps respawning (typically due to a config
     mistake)

  2. said service is upgraded/replaced in a `guix system reconfigure`

  3. v1 of the service keeps respawning forever, and there's nothing i
     can do to stop it at this point. `herd disable` operates on v2 of
     the service, while some fiber, or some signal handler of v1 is
     still in a respawn loop.

HTH,

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