bug#45360: Cannot log in to GNOME on foreign distro with Guix

bug#45360: Cannot log in to GNOME on foreign distro with Guix

[Evan Straw]

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 Hello,

I'm running Ubuntu 20.04.1 LTS with Guix installed on top as a package
manager.

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evan@navi:~$ guix describe
Generation 30	Dec 21 2020 13:21:53	(current)
  guix f00e68a
    repository URL: https://git.savannah.gnu.org/git/guix.git
    branch: master
    commit: f00e68ace070fd5240a4b5874e61c26f6e909b6c
  personal bd255b1
    repository URL: https://git.sr.ht/~estraw/guix-channel
    branch: master
    commit: bd255b10b22e612971bd8daf9c2ab3d3014a0b7c
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One day, I went to log in after rebooting my PC (I had performed a `guix
pull` the same day) and upon entering my password, I was just brought
immediately back to the login screen. Checking the system journal, I
found that gnome-session is outputting several errors like

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Dec 17 22:27:14 navi gnome-session[24407]: gnome-session-binary[24407]: WARNING: Unable to find required component 'org.gnome.SettingsDaemon.A11ySettings'
Dec 17 22:27:14 navi gnome-session[24407]: gnome-session-binary[24407]: WARNING: Unable to find required component 'org.gnome.SettingsDaemon.Color'
Dec 17 22:27:14 navi gnome-session-binary[24407]: WARNING: Unable to find required component 'org.gnome.SettingsDaemon.A11ySettings'
Dec 17 22:27:14 navi gnome-session-binary[24407]: WARNING: Unable to find required component 'org.gnome.SettingsDaemon.Color'
Dec 17 22:27:14 navi gnome-session[24407]: gnome-session-binary[24407]: WARNING: Unable to find required component 'org.gnome.SettingsDaemon.Datetime'
Dec 17 22:27:14 navi gnome-session-binary[24407]: WARNING: Unable to find required component 'org.gnome.SettingsDaemon.Datetime'
Dec 17 22:27:14 navi gnome-session[24407]: gnome-session-binary[24407]: WARNING: Unable to find required component 'org.gnome.SettingsDaemon.Housekeeping'
Dec 17 22:27:14 navi gnome-session-binary[24407]: WARNING: Unable to find required component 'org.gnome.SettingsDaemon.Housekeeping'
Dec 17 22:27:14 navi gnome-session[24407]: gnome-session-binary[24407]: WARNING: Unable to find required component 'org.gnome.SettingsDaemon.Keyboard'
Dec 17 22:27:14 navi gnome-session-binary[24407]: WARNING: Unable to find required component 'org.gnome.SettingsDaemon.Keyboard'
Dec 17 22:27:14 navi gnome-session[24407]: gnome-session-binary[24407]: WARNING: Unable to find required component 'org.gnome.SettingsDaemon.MediaKeys'
Dec 17 22:27:14 navi gnome-session-binary[24407]: WARNING: Unable to find required component 'org.gnome.SettingsDaemon.MediaKeys'
Dec 17 22:27:14 navi gnome-session[24407]: gnome-session-binary[24407]: WARNING: Unable to find required component 'org.gnome.SettingsDaemon.Power'
Dec 17 22:27:14 navi gnome-session-binary[24407]: WARNING: Unable to find required component 'org.gnome.SettingsDaemon.Power'
Dec 17 22:27:14 navi gnome-session[24407]: gnome-session-binary[24407]: WARNING: Unable to find required component 'org.gnome.SettingsDaemon.PrintNotifications'
Dec 17 22:27:14 navi gnome-session[24407]: gnome-session-binary[24407]: WARNING: Unable to find required component 'org.gnome.SettingsDaemon.Rfkill'
Dec 17 22:27:14 navi gnome-session[24407]: gnome-session-binary[24407]: WARNING: Unable to find required component 'org.gnome.SettingsDaemon.ScreensaverProxy'
Dec 17 22:27:14 navi gnome-session-binary[24407]: WARNING: Unable to find required component 'org.gnome.SettingsDaemon.PrintNotifications'
Dec 17 22:27:14 navi gnome-session-binary[24407]: WARNING: Unable to find required component 'org.gnome.SettingsDaemon.Rfkill'
Dec 17 22:27:14 navi gnome-session-binary[24407]: WARNING: Unable to find required component 'org.gnome.SettingsDaemon.ScreensaverProxy'
Dec 17 22:27:14 navi gnome-session-binary[24407]: WARNING: Unable to find required component 'org.gnome.SettingsDaemon.Sharing'
Dec 17 22:27:14 navi gnome-session[24407]: gnome-session-binary[24407]: WARNING: Unable to find required component 'org.gnome.SettingsDaemon.Sharing'
Dec 17 22:27:14 navi gnome-session[24407]: gnome-session-binary[24407]: WARNING: Unable to find required component 'org.gnome.SettingsDaemon.Smartcard'
Dec 17 22:27:14 navi gnome-session-binary[24407]: WARNING: Unable to find required component 'org.gnome.SettingsDaemon.Smartcard'
Dec 17 22:27:14 navi gnome-session[24407]: gnome-session-binary[24407]: WARNING: Unable to find required component 'org.gnome.SettingsDaemon.Sound'
Dec 17 22:27:14 navi gnome-session-binary[24407]: WARNING: Unable to find required component 'org.gnome.SettingsDaemon.Sound'
Dec 17 22:27:14 navi gnome-session[24407]: gnome-session-binary[24407]: WARNING: Unable to find required component 'org.gnome.SettingsDaemon.Wacom'
Dec 17 22:27:14 navi gnome-session-binary[24407]: WARNING: Unable to find required component 'org.gnome.SettingsDaemon.Wacom'
Dec 17 22:27:14 navi gnome-session[24407]: gnome-session-binary[24407]: WARNING: Unable to find required component 'org.gnome.SettingsDaemon.XSettings'
Dec 17 22:27:14 navi gnome-session[24407]: gnome-session-binary[24407]: CRITICAL: We failed, but the fail whale is dead. Sorry....
Dec 17 22:27:14 navi gnome-session-binary[24407]: WARNING: Unable to find required component 'org.gnome.SettingsDaemon.XSettings'
Dec 17 22:27:14 navi gnome-session-binary[24407]: CRITICAL: We failed, but the fail whale is dead. Sorry....
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When I disable the shell script in /etc/profile.d/ that exports
necessary environment variables for Guix, the problem disappears, and I
am able to log in again, which makes me suspect that maybe some of the
environment variables that Guix sets are confusing GNOME somehow. I'm
not sure if it is caused by one of the packages I have installed from
Guix, but I know that when I limit my profile to only Emacs and the
Emacs packages I have installed from Guix, I am able to log in
again. When I add a package (like stumpwm) that needs to set
XDG_DATA_DIRS, the problem seems to reappear. I also was able to
reproduce the problem on another machine I have that runs the same
operating system and also has Guix.

Is this a bug, or is it possible I've just misconfigured something?
Please let me know if I'm missing any needed information and I'll do my
best to provide it.

-- Evan Straw <evan.straw99@gmail.com>

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bug#45360: Cannot log in to GNOME on foreign distro with Guix

[Carlo Zancanaro]

Hi Evan!

On Tue, Dec 22 2020, Evan Straw wrote:
> ... When I add a package (like stumpwm) that needs to set 
> XDG_DATA_DIRS, the problem seems to reappear. ...

I think I've had this problem in the past. I'm currently running 
on a foreign distribution, and I have this in my ~/.profile file:

    # XDG_DATA_DIRS often starts off empty, but an empty value is
    # interpreted as this value. Loading a profile can set it, 
    though,
    # which effectively ignores the default value. We want it to
    # instead add to the default, so we set it here to the default
    # value.
    if [ -z "$XDG_DATA_DIRS" ]; then
        export XDG_DATA_DIRS="/usr/local/share/:/usr/share/"
    fi

I think I took the default value from 
https://specifications.freedesktop.org/basedir-spec/latest/ar01s03.html 
where it says:

    If $XDG_DATA_DIRS is either not set or empty, a value equal to 
    /usr/local/share/:/usr/share/ should be used.

I hope that helps!

> Is this a bug, or is it possible I've just misconfigured 
> something?

We should consider this a bug, because Guix's attempt to add to 
the XDG_DATA_DIRS environment variable clobbers the default value 
that foreign distributions are relying on.

We should at least document this in the manual, maybe in "(guix) 
Application Setup".

Carlo

bug#45360: Cannot log in to GNOME on foreign distro with Guix

[Ricardo Wurmus]

Carlo Zancanaro <carlo@zancanaro.id.au> writes:

>> Is this a bug, or is it possible I've just misconfigured something?
>
> We should consider this a bug, because Guix's attempt to add to the
> XDG_DATA_DIRS environment variable clobbers the default value that
> foreign distributions are relying on.

Is this something we can avoid by patching … something to use a
Guix-specific variable?  This variable can cause a lot of trouble when
using Guix on foreign distros, but I don’t know how we can prevent
system software from loading stuff from XDG_DATA_DIRS for Guix and vice
versa without renaming the variables.

A related question: should Guix software ignore XDG_DATA_DIRS when set
by the system?  Or is it enough to make it respect an *additional*
variable like GUIX_XDG_DATA_DIRS, which we would have Guix set?

> We should at least document this in the manual, maybe in "(guix)
> Application Setup".

If it’s an easy workaround: yes.  But if it’s a bug we can actually fix
I’d rather see it fixed :)

-- 
Ricardo

bug#45360: Cannot log in to GNOME on foreign distro with Guix

[Nicolas Goaziou]

Hello,

Ricardo Wurmus <rekado@elephly.net> writes:

> Carlo Zancanaro <carlo@zancanaro.id.au> writes:

>> We should consider this a bug, because Guix's attempt to add to the
>> XDG_DATA_DIRS environment variable clobbers the default value that
>> foreign distributions are relying on.
>
> Is this something we can avoid by patching … something to use a
> Guix-specific variable?  This variable can cause a lot of trouble when
> using Guix on foreign distros, but I don’t know how we can prevent
> system software from loading stuff from XDG_DATA_DIRS for Guix and vice
> versa without renaming the variables.
>
> A related question: should Guix software ignore XDG_DATA_DIRS when set
> by the system?  Or is it enough to make it respect an *additional*
> variable like GUIX_XDG_DATA_DIRS, which we would have Guix set?
>
>> We should at least document this in the manual, maybe in "(guix)
>> Application Setup".
>
> If it’s an easy workaround: yes.  But if it’s a bug we can actually fix
> I’d rather see it fixed :)

I don't think this would be a sufficient workaround anyway. It seems
related to bug 35308 (<http://issues.guix.info/35308>) where
GI_TYPELIB_PATH is also involved.

Regards,
-- 
Nicolas Goaziou

bug#45360: Cannot log in to GNOME on foreign distro with Guix

[Evan Straw]

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Hello,

I have more information on this bug. Apologies for the delay. I've been
able to narrow the problem down to a single package - when I install
sbcl, I am unable to log in, and when I uninstall sbcl, the problem
disappears, and I am able to log in normally. Even using a profile with
only the sbcl package, the problem occurs. I checked out the package
definition for sbcl and it seems to set both XDG_CONFIG_DIRS and
XDG_DATA_DIRS, so maybe that's where the problem is? I'm not really sure
what causes this, however; that's just a guess.

Hope this helps narrow it down more. If I can provide any more
information please let me know.

-- Evan


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bug#45360: Personal Experience

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Hi, folks! I can see that the last comment is back in 2020.


Is there anyone involved in related development that still considers this bug? Today, in 2024, four years later, I can see the bug is not fixed.


Yesterday, I  ran guix install gcl sbcl. After a logout, I was unable to login. First, I thought I messed up something by accident so I used timeshift to roll back my machine. After the fix I installed gcl and sbcl again, then when I started my machine, the same problem occured! It took my more than 5 reboots to found out that it is the sbcl installed via guix that broke gnome somehow. After guix remove sbcl, the problem is gone! 


does anyone have some idea about a fix or walkaround? This is absolutely a bug, and since gnome is popular fossware, I would regard it as an urgent bug that forces people not to use sbcl via guix. 


If the bug is not easily fixable in the near future, a note in the package description is needed, warning people not to use the package if they are using gnome.


--Jack

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