From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: mikadoZero Subject: Re: Guix pronunciation Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2019 22:45:43 -0400 Message-ID: References: <87r2behcir.fsf@nckx> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:39242) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1h3Ay4-0006OQ-Bl for Guix-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 10 Mar 2019 22:47:09 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1h3Ax0-0002Rf-Jv for Guix-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 10 Mar 2019 22:46:03 -0400 Received: from forward106j.mail.yandex.net ([5.45.198.249]:45915) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1h3Awz-0002KS-QI for Guix-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 10 Mar 2019 22:46:02 -0400 Received: from mxback12o.mail.yandex.net (mxback12o.mail.yandex.net [IPv6:2a02:6b8:0:1a2d::63]) by forward106j.mail.yandex.net (Yandex) with ESMTP id 2DAEC11A08DD for ; Mon, 11 Mar 2019 05:45:59 +0300 (MSK) In-reply-to: <87r2behcir.fsf@nckx> List-Id: "Development of GNU Guix and the GNU System distribution." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: guix-devel-bounces+gcggd-guix-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: "Guix-devel" To: Guix-devel@gnu.org Tobias Geerinckx-Rice writes: > Hullo! > > Now I personally think =E2=80=98Guix=E2=80=99 looks and sounds good (not = fine), and > our logo is positively stunning, and damn professional too. If that > makes me biased, so be it ;-) > > mikadoZero wrote: >> I also wanted to know what people think about the "geeks" >> pronunciation and how it may impact adoption of Guix as it continues >> to grow long term. Maybe someday becoming as popular as Debian, >> macOS or Windows are today (wishful thinking). For example what if >> Linux kernel had actually been called Freax. [=E2=80=A6] Would it have >> negatively impacted adoption of the kernel. > > I really don't think so. =E2=80=98Linux=E2=80=99 is the fellow's name wi= th an X on > the end. It's as much of a anti-marketing joke as =E2=80=98Freax=E2=80= =99 was (or GNU > or Guix for that matter). The only reason it seems more familiar is > because, well, it is. > > And (honest question): do we even care? Such a stupid reason to shoot > yourself in the foot with an inferior package manager. > >> Yes Freax and "geeks" > > [and =E2=80=9CLinux=E2=80=9D] > >> are fun. On the other hand branding is important. > > You wrote this as a contradiction but I don't see one. > > The world's most valuable and evil company was once called =E2=80=98Googl= e=E2=80=99. > Koooky! Guix is different from Linux or Google because pronouncing it as "geeks" gives it a negative connotation and sentiment. See below. > >> Just to make my bias clear. I am not a fan of pronouncing Guix >> "geeks" and find myself thinking of deliberately mispronouncing >> Guix as "gwixs" or spelling out the letters G U I X when talking >> to people about Guix. > > That's really unfortunate. > > Kind regards, > > T G-R > > GUIX=C2=AE is a trademark of Express Logic, Inc. All other brands or > product names are the property of their respective holders. In my initial message I should have explained why I am not a fan of Guix pronounced "geeks". It is because the pronunciation is the same as the plural of the word geek. The word geek has an ambiguous definition. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geek When Guix is pronounced "geeks" there are negative connotation. The current participants in the Guix community have a self selection bias by using alpha or beta software. This could shows itself through a focus on the positive definition of geek. However I am alone in perceiving the negative connotations and sentiment of the word geek. The vaderSentiment project on GitHub has sentiment scores for words which you can see in it's vader_lexicon.txt. Both geeks and geek have negative sentiment.