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charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-guix@gnu.org List-Id: Bug reports for GNU Guix List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-guix-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: bug-guix-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org X-Migadu-Country: US X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN X-Migadu-Scanner: mx13.migadu.com X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -2.16 X-Spam-Score: -2.16 X-Migadu-Queue-Id: B512C39466 X-TUID: BW66/23J+auX i think i have found the root cause of this, as documented here: https://is= sues.guix.gnu.org/67839 that issue contains patches for shepherd to reproduce it in its test suite. --=20 =E2=80=A2 attila lendvai =E2=80=A2 PGP: 963F 5D5F 45C7 DFCD 0A39 -- =E2=80=9CWhat divides libertarians from everybody else is not a belief abou= t rights or what rights people have, because the judgments libertarians mak= e about the state are the same as the judgments almost everyone makes about= private agents. So it's not that we believe in rights that other people do= n't believe in, or that other people believe in rights that we don't believ= e in. It's that other people think the state is exempt from the moral princ= iples that apply to non-government agents.=E2=80=9D =09=E2=80=94 Michael Huemer