From: Konrad Hinsen <konrad.hinsen@fastmail.net>
To: zimoun <zimon.toutoune@gmail.com>
Cc: Guix Devel <guix-devel@gnu.org>, 38529@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#38529: Make --ad-hoc the default for guix environment proposed deprecation mechanism
Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2019 10:43:46 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <m1pngmrmst.fsf__24759.6530754649$1576662267$gmane$org@khs-macbook.home> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAJ3okZ0Fw=02cDwdn5GuiDCyUNOUY=YaGyrFyHE5qWsOQTLASQ@mail.gmail.com>
Hi Simon,
> Maybe I miss a point. It is not: "watch out, this will do something
> else in the future" but "watch out, this was doing something else in
> the past and the change happened the <date> in <commit>".
Concrete example: I am writing a tutorial about using Guix for
reproducible research. It shows several uses of "guix environment", some
of them without '–add-hoc' or '–inputs-of'. I know my examples will
cease to work in a few months. What am I supposed to do about this?
> First, I am not convinced that there is not so much scripts that will
> be broken. And second, I am not convinced neither that these very
> scripts need time-traveling.
Perhaps it's just me, but I use "guix environment" quite a lot in
scripts, in order to make them more reproducible. Here's a simple
example:
#!/usr/bin/env bash
guix environment --container --ad-hoc gcc-toolchain <<EOF
gcc pi.c -o pi
./pi
EOF
>> The first rule of backwards-compatibility is: never change the meaning
>> of an existing valid command/API. Add new valid syntax, deprecate old
>> valid syntax, but don't change the meaning of something that was and
>> will be valid.
>
> I agree on the rule.
> But it is mitigated but the number of users and the popularity of the tool. ;-)
Indeed!
> Yes, it is probably the most adequate to do. But it is sad to loose
> the good name "guix environment"... and we know that naming is hard.
> ;-)
I definitely agree. As a lesson for the future, maybe we should use
not-so-nice names for new commands during a kind of beta-testing phase.
Cheers,
Konrad
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Thread overview: 87+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2019-12-08 15:42 bug#38529: Make --pure the default for `guix environment'? Pierre Neidhardt
2019-12-08 21:03 ` zimoun
2019-12-09 18:46 ` Thompson, David
2019-12-09 20:17 ` Brett Gilio
2019-12-10 17:16 ` Ludovic Courtès
2019-12-30 17:27 ` raingloom
2020-11-03 17:38 ` Christopher Lemmer Webber
2020-11-03 18:35 ` zimoun
2020-11-06 9:03 ` Ludovic Courtès
2020-11-04 9:43 ` Taylan Kammer
2020-11-04 16:05 ` Christopher Lemmer Webber
2019-12-12 11:23 ` bug#38529: Make --ad-hoc the default for guix environment proposed deprecation mechanism Gábor Boskovits
2019-12-12 11:23 ` Gábor Boskovits
2019-12-12 16:47 ` bug#38529: " zimoun
2019-12-12 16:47 ` zimoun
2019-12-12 20:54 ` Gábor Boskovits
2019-12-12 20:54 ` Gábor Boskovits
2019-12-13 12:02 ` zimoun
2019-12-13 16:27 ` Gábor Boskovits
2019-12-13 16:32 ` zimoun
2019-12-13 16:41 ` Gábor Boskovits
2019-12-14 18:11 ` Hartmut Goebel
2019-12-16 22:09 ` Ludovic Courtès
2019-12-17 6:49 ` Konrad Hinsen
2019-12-17 9:14 ` Gábor Boskovits
2019-12-17 9:14 ` Gábor Boskovits
2019-12-17 13:33 ` Kyle Meyer
2019-12-17 14:22 ` Brett Gilio
2019-12-17 14:22 ` Brett Gilio
2019-12-17 13:33 ` Kyle Meyer
2019-12-17 22:30 ` Bengt Richter
2019-12-17 22:30 ` Bengt Richter
2019-12-17 23:21 ` Bengt Richter
2019-12-17 23:21 ` Bengt Richter
2019-12-17 17:07 ` zimoun
2019-12-18 9:43 ` Konrad Hinsen [this message]
2019-12-18 9:43 ` Konrad Hinsen
2019-12-18 13:09 ` zimoun
2019-12-18 13:09 ` zimoun
2019-12-20 11:24 ` Konrad Hinsen
2019-12-20 11:24 ` Konrad Hinsen
2019-12-20 12:03 ` zimoun
2019-12-20 21:08 ` Ricardo Wurmus
2019-12-23 9:28 ` Danny Milosavljevic
2019-12-23 9:28 ` Danny Milosavljevic
2020-01-02 9:49 ` Andy Wingo
2019-12-18 20:55 ` Arne Babenhauserheide
2019-12-19 11:30 ` zimoun
2019-12-19 21:39 ` Arne Babenhauserheide
2019-12-19 22:40 ` zimoun
2019-12-20 1:37 ` Arne Babenhauserheide
2019-12-20 11:40 ` zimoun
2019-12-20 21:31 ` Ricardo Wurmus
2019-12-21 8:40 ` Gábor Boskovits
2019-12-21 16:51 ` Ludovic Courtès
2019-12-30 9:44 ` EuAndreh via Bug reports for GNU Guix
2019-12-30 10:34 ` Ludovic Courtès
2019-12-30 12:03 ` zimoun
2019-12-30 15:06 ` Ludovic Courtès
2019-12-30 17:55 ` zimoun
2019-12-30 21:10 ` Ricardo Wurmus
2019-12-30 21:32 ` zimoun
2019-12-31 18:09 ` Ludovic Courtès
2019-12-31 19:09 ` Ricardo Wurmus
2020-01-01 19:23 ` zimoun
2019-12-20 23:02 ` Arne Babenhauserheide
2019-12-21 0:04 ` zimoun
2019-12-20 21:12 ` Ricardo Wurmus
2019-12-21 15:18 ` Konrad Hinsen
2019-12-21 15:18 ` Konrad Hinsen
2019-12-20 21:12 ` Ricardo Wurmus
2019-12-17 17:07 ` zimoun
2019-12-19 16:31 ` Deprecating ‘guix environment’? Ludovic Courtès
2019-12-19 22:48 ` bug#38529: " zimoun
2019-12-19 22:48 ` zimoun
2019-12-20 11:17 ` Konrad Hinsen
2019-12-20 13:21 ` bug#38529: " zimoun
2019-12-20 13:21 ` zimoun
2019-12-20 11:17 ` bug#38529: " Konrad Hinsen
2019-12-19 16:31 ` Ludovic Courtès
2019-12-17 6:49 ` bug#38529: Make --ad-hoc the default for guix environment proposed deprecation mechanism Konrad Hinsen
2019-12-16 22:09 ` Ludovic Courtès
2019-12-08 22:43 ` bug#38529: Make --pure the default for `guix environment'? Leo Famulari
2019-12-09 5:23 ` Maxim Cournoyer
2022-08-19 14:28 ` Maxim Cournoyer
2019-12-09 17:37 ` Jesse Gibbons
2019-12-12 19:33 ` zimoun
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