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From: Konrad Hinsen <konrad.hinsen@fastmail.net>
To: "Ludovic Courtès" <ludo@gnu.org>
Cc: 72840@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: [bug#72840] [PATCH RFC] DRAFT doc: Add “Deprecation Policy” section.
Date: Sun, 15 Sep 2024 10:22:05 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <m1frq11g42.fsf@fastmail.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87frq3foi5.fsf_-_@gnu.org>

Hi Ludo,

>> There's also a use case missing in the list in the beginning: Guix as a
>> dependency of some other software, which in the worst case is no longer
>> ...

> I think this is covered by the last point:
>
> +development of external tools that use programming interfaces such as
> +the @code{(guix ...)} modules.

Yes and no. I see external tools as two distinct use cases:

 - their development
 - their application

The missing case is application.

> There are quite a few actually: the CI/QA tools, package browsers like
> hpcguix-web, the Guix Workflow Language, Guix-Jupyter, rde, etc.

All those are add-on tools to the Guix CLI. I doubt these tools have any
user who wouldn't also use the Guix CLI. Meaning that they have a good
chance to learn about deprecations.

I am aware of a single tool that depends on Guix but whose functionality
is unrelated to Guix and could be implemented otherwise:

  https://github.com/khinsen/swh-checkout

It's a Guile script that uses Guix as a library for accessing Software
Heritage. And it's a mere proof-of-concept implementation. I don't
advertise it for general use. But I do expect more such tools to appear
over time, including some with more substantial dependence on Guix.

> As drafted here, there’s no enforcement and nobody having the duty of
> looking for violations and taking action.
>
> I view it as binding though.  If a user complains that their favorite
> package as been removed in violation of the policy, then we as a
> community should review the claim and reinstate the package, unless it

OK, that sounds good enough!

Cheers,
  Konrad.




  reply	other threads:[~2024-09-15  8:22 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-08-27 19:13 [bug#72839] [PATCH RFC] DRAFT doc: Add “Deprecation Policy” section Ludovic Courtès
2024-09-02 11:53 ` [bug#72840] " pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)
2024-09-05 21:26   ` bug#72840: " Ludovic Courtès
2024-09-05 21:31     ` [bug#72840] [PATCH RFC v2] " Ludovic Courtès
2024-09-11  7:04       ` Maxim Cournoyer
2024-09-11 10:11         ` [bug#72840] [PATCH RFC v3] " Ludovic Courtès
2024-09-12  0:40           ` Maxim Cournoyer
2024-09-23 22:11           ` [bug#72840] [PATCH RFC v4] " Ludovic Courtès
2024-09-24 16:32             ` Greg Hogan
2024-09-25  8:47               ` Andreas Enge
2024-10-02 16:20               ` [bug#72840] [PATCH RFC] DRAFT " Ludovic Courtès
2024-10-12 17:54             ` bug#72840: " Ludovic Courtès
2024-09-11 10:11         ` [bug#72840] " Ludovic Courtès
2024-09-11 18:30 ` Noé Lopez via Guix-patches via
2024-09-13 17:23   ` Ludovic Courtès
2024-09-11 19:49 ` [bug#72840] Deprecation policy Konrad Hinsen
2024-09-13 17:32   ` [bug#72840] [PATCH RFC] DRAFT doc: Add “Deprecation Policy” section Ludovic Courtès
2024-09-15  8:22     ` Konrad Hinsen [this message]
     [not found] ` <66e1e26e.050a0220.2c8e9.9533SMTPIN_ADDED_BROKEN@mx.google.com>
2024-09-12 15:39   ` Greg Hogan
2024-09-13 16:41 ` [bug#72839] Using RFC process? (was Re: [bug#72839] [PATCH RFC] DRAFT doc: Add “Deprecation Policy” section.) Simon Tournier
2024-09-13 17:38   ` [bug#72840] [PATCH RFC] DRAFT doc: Add “Deprecation Policy” section Ludovic Courtès
2024-09-13 18:11     ` [bug#72839] bug#72840: " Simon Tournier
2024-09-13 20:57 ` [bug#72840] " indieterminacy
2024-09-23 21:44   ` Ludovic Courtès
2024-09-17 12:21 ` [bug#72840] Orphaned packages Konrad Hinsen
2024-09-23 21:47   ` [bug#72840] [PATCH RFC] DRAFT doc: Add “Deprecation Policy” section Ludovic Courtès
2024-09-24  5:21     ` Konrad Hinsen
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2024-09-13 17:44 Input welcome on the proposed deprecation policy Ludovic Courtès
2024-09-14  7:14 ` [bug#72840] [PATCH RFC] DRAFT doc: Add “Deprecation Policy” section Janneke Nieuwenhuizen
2024-09-26 13:16   ` Ludovic Courtès
     [not found] <87zfowk9bh.fsf@gnu.org>
2024-09-23 22:16 ` Ludovic Courtès

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