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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Reply-To: Jacob Hrbek Cc: "guix-devel@gnu.org" Errors-To: guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Guix-devel" X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN X-Migadu-Country: US ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yhetil.org; s=key1; t=1637703350; h=from:from:sender:sender:reply-to:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type:in-reply-to:in-reply-to: references:references:list-id:list-help:list-unsubscribe: list-subscribe:list-post:dkim-signature; bh=g5U1K4csExJ7REuov5wVmqS7eJMuEN0vnPt/PQGvuK0=; b=bZXHAr+kLC/N9e+kRIDX2zAzsCQYY7uu8OtXxuMcTt+lMY8MWzGa5YqJwrnajfjP4oETZ5 bnIfAHRmtw8al9g3wOZbaERHgPkn3W3+1reu09BRgt0CXxzjXTjGU35mIL5iN0kYW3XNch +Jo/iiVoXXZow3A4C+M247vJsMdLQYA3QrbRq3dYXgJadkAelW+/6BvPK5oTrxdtANJT5i C6ERf04HU5Y+l8t5dg/1VH08Hp/4t/Glmz59u6ZwD4VCLh7ww6qBe61ao5CcoCPhE0P7ZH q1ENJQFxTChoN7l6OqgnQ2XsOmnHaBNUfDDl4W8YYYRf5NclshQUzcD3bFUbXA== ARC-Seal: i=1; s=key1; d=yhetil.org; t=1637703350; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=kq+aXu7lDedZnXJg7+vFKOIt9D4gkyJd9GjZFykQv32o5UW0F/EpsFDVIIDkGwlkbBBqAJ Que69t/6+qZQ87LwrvAgMfOnU+LhR7KaEUwDa3HQs5WNdgAdPEowIrvPsVS0/khsYXXTP4 6QCaN4kFgFyXKSENEfGz1OFYrFzU9e0ffM6qdqf3dk08fAguxQs4uxY5Glblk3uER84bNq fyHO8xzXtIZKlCyG86BRSMs1frLpJ+/PAdNxezyLmSl6g1YS857M0W63gSb8HDypKm+BYp K9LCpyOq+eSTbuZG34desRpZSv9DOGDjIzaNh5OMeoSZ2EKFAiVQcTn7Nwh3zw== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=rixotstudio.cz header.s=protonmail2 header.b=UZvwVMrR; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=rixotstudio.cz; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -6.09 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=rixotstudio.cz header.s=protonmail2 header.b=UZvwVMrR; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=rixotstudio.cz; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" X-Migadu-Queue-Id: 40200E486 X-Spam-Score: -6.09 X-Migadu-Scanner: scn0.migadu.com X-TUID: 59d6Woabj2mP This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --------0c9610480a71632451cb3ba0895b5495395b8e50d61915ec9868c04878b5f661 Content-Type: multipart/mixed;boundary=---------------------07cad69c4975423b30aaf399b95ddb9a -----------------------07cad69c4975423b30aaf399b95ddb9a Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain;charset=utf-8 Skimming through the research that lily provided our builds are reproducib= le so the changes in cpu cycles requirements should be same with any post-= build implementation disabled, but i recognize that different CPUs might u= se different configuration that influences the calculation and it will be = a complicated task to account for all variables that influence the build a= cross systems so instead of accurate measurements we should work with a sa= ne tolerance for accuracy. -- Jacob "Kreyren" Hrbek Sent with ProtonMail Secure Email. =E2=80=90=E2=80=90=E2=80=90=E2=80=90=E2=80=90=E2=80=90=E2=80=90 Original M= essage =E2=80=90=E2=80=90=E2=80=90=E2=80=90=E2=80=90=E2=80=90=E2=80=90 On Tuesday, November 23rd, 2021 at 8:09 PM, Liliana Marie Prikler wrote: > Am Montag, den 22.11.2021, 22:02 +0000 schrieb Jacob Hrbek: > = > > See the proposal in https://git.dotya.ml/guix.next/GUIX.next/issues/5 > > = > > -- Jacob "Kreyren" Hrbek > > = > > Sent with ProtonMail Secure Email. > = > Your Pok=C3=A9mon analogy is extremely flawed. The same CPU at a differe= nt > = > clockrate does not perform the same task in the same amount of cycles > = > [1, 2]. > = > [1] Kotla, Ramakrishna & Devgan, Anirudh & Ghiasi, Soraya & Keller, Tom > = > & Rawson, Freeman. (2004). Characterizing the impact of different > = > memory-intensity levels. 3 - 10. 10.1109/WWC.2004.1437388. > = > [2] Snowdon, David & Sueur, Etienne & Petters, Stefan & Heiser, Gernot. > = > (2009). Koala a platform for OS-level power management. 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