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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Reply-To: Attila Lendvai Cc: guix-devel , guix-sysadmin , Maxim Cournoyer Errors-To: guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Guix-devel" X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN X-Migadu-Country: US ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yhetil.org; s=key1; t=1644869228; h=from:from:sender:sender:reply-to:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references:list-id:list-help: list-unsubscribe:list-subscribe:list-post:dkim-signature; bh=N8yeZrBFX5qCZQSEOId1jmzn1y5B7UW5E9sjOLEXzUE=; b=o4HhFSwCD2+YuAXX3NnlM2zns2ZE1fsBj2TCHhZzGJJZAfyZkP31toNMoI8c6hmPR677/e /el2TgCwuGbGvxseNyyHDg+kjGTVuq24oQkMymto4dWL/diVJddcXumbPDB9XsTbLalekN EayLyvDbB3Ir15BfA0Ixo+46XC4VxhGNjmpypm8aO8U2y+DWyaOZ7t6sv+/qCzunFKfgKC OU7ksI8or1T7LpjdXJ+AZODIfrCZ7grNUOdw2Pr/Ggjp18JYxmZOYj06tFf+HZgWfIdASw +mpXA+psvCQW6NcB3Qu3U41RuAEnlT0zS4NKkOOcEmW87Ag+0QxctXPfYyONAQ== ARC-Seal: i=1; s=key1; d=yhetil.org; t=1644869228; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=W/h3g7BSF+65cPG97AKwKQCOYbXxZh+ri5NWaCcEkD79pxDM9+PuyOqYXyxtPC6WVJvLv2 hH8pIT6tt0WEkdPt+44IZ9g6XlwkdyiYkBITktY2RA7lPHIfp9RurViFlaX0n2glnhNYfo KW0IEb8QdJMMCjoZqjTBjYgXrbk/9nsjcXX9khmmxTSHnKsXbECPAnpvAoryysaVM6l6rI 91SNEk12NMJhlKlfsRPcI2iCHCmlerExHLPsA+Hkks0/Ap2UkXMTPQpAxZBHuEKHW5FiIF i4gnEVRU6DDTwN1OYBcaNx2jLdAbbLu8vbqW4KzQ6+3e7lF8ZY6ozXBtmB+U6g== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=fail ("headers rsa verify failed") header.d=lendvai.name header.s=protonmail3 header.b=hiruXe7K; dmarc=none; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -2.13 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=fail ("headers rsa verify failed") header.d=lendvai.name header.s=protonmail3 header.b=hiruXe7K; dmarc=none; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" X-Migadu-Queue-Id: 860963C40E X-Spam-Score: -2.13 X-Migadu-Scanner: scn1.migadu.com X-TUID: BbSrWRdUKv67 > building. If we want to keep nars long enough so that =E2=80=98time-m= achine=E2=80=99 is > usable, then storage requirements will keep growing. > > Perhaps that means we can regularly copy nars =E2=80=9Celsewhere= =E2=80=9D for long-term > storage, using nar-herder, rsync, or whatever. The machine that store= s > nars long-term has low requirements compared to the build farm becaus= e > we don=E2=80=99t need to trust it for anything other than storage. If= that > makes things easier (and financially viable), a VPS is good enough. if the ERIS project proceeds with a reasonable pace (and the Swarm backend, too), then it would be a perfect opportunity to start stress testing the va= rious distributed storage backends. unfortunately, for now Swarm only works through my custom channel that down= loads the release binaries, but that can be fixed, too. -- =E2=80=A2 attila lendvai =E2=80=A2 PGP: 963F 5D5F 45C7 DFCD 0A39 -- =E2=80=9CAnd remember, where you have a concentration of power in a few han= ds, all too frequently men with the mentality of gangsters get control. His= tory has proven that.=E2=80=9D =09=E2=80=94 Lord Acton (1834=E2=80=931902)