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TAGGED_FROM(0.00)[larch=yhetil.org]; FROM_NEQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[sirmacik@wioo.waw.pl,guix-patches-bounces@gnu.org]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; URIBL_BLOCKED(0.00)[wioo.waw.pl:email,gnu.org:email]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; HAS_LIST_UNSUB(-0.01)[]; MID_RHS_NOT_FQDN(0.50)[]; RCVD_COUNT_SEVEN(0.00)[9]; FORGED_SENDER_MAILLIST(0.00)[]; DMARC_POLICY_SOFTFAIL(0.10)[wioo.waw.pl : SPF not aligned (relaxed),none] X-TUID: ReS/5ytLlrSM 2 maj 2020 00:06:16 Ludovic Court=C3=A8s : > Hi Marcin, > > Marcin Karpezo skribis: > > > > With big rekado help I'm sending you a patch with at least partially > > fixes the issue of crontab -e reporting missing /var/cron/tabs > > directory. > > > > Unless I=E2=80=99m mistaken, creating /var/cron/tabs will silence =E2=80= =9Ccrontab -e=E2=80=9D, > but those entries will still be ignored because mcron=E2=80=99s crond is = not > running (IIRC the cron functionality of mcron is separate and requires > you to run crond, which we don=E2=80=99t do.) > > One option would be to write a different service altogether running that > daemon and creates /var/cron/tabs like you did. > > Another option would be to remote the =E2=80=98crontab=E2=80=99 program f= rom our =E2=80=98mcron=E2=80=99 > package to at least avoid disappointments. > > Thoughts? Why won't start supporting and running mcron's crond daemon? That way guix = will finally have normal fully functional cron which will ease administrati= on not only on personal machines but also on server side. It's nice to have= everything defined in one config file but it isn't as handy for multiuser = setup. I think instead of avoiding disappointment it would be better to positively= surprise the users. I know that guix thrives in what sets it apart from ot= her distros, but it's better to keep things standard whenever its possible = and follow the rule of least surprise. Especially if it won't be damaging f= or the goals of the project. Cheers Marcin