From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Alexander Vdolainen Subject: Re: Joint statement on the GNU Project Date: Sun, 13 Oct 2019 00:45:33 +0300 Message-ID: References: <87ftk4hbhu.fsf@gnu.org> <8eaaa9a2-a5ff-b64a-48bf-954150fecc63@gmail.com> <87a7a67ukn.fsf@jlicht.xyz> <87dd438d-4c9e-1d7b-1f35-d9346f08f336@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="roS7RRMRKTvk2qw4E3CwIbDPv3mnfLHV0" Return-path: In-Reply-To: <87dd438d-4c9e-1d7b-1f35-d9346f08f336@gmail.com> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: gnu-system-discuss-bounces+gcgs-gnu-system-discuss=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: "gnu-system-discuss" To: Taylan Kammer , Jelle Licht , guix-devel@gnu.org, gnu-system-discuss@gnu.org, ludo@gnu.org List-Id: guix-devel.gnu.org This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --roS7RRMRKTvk2qw4E3CwIbDPv3mnfLHV0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="ZBL0QQqTEPBg5vrsJJEK3LR8MZP5gkuSY"; protected-headers="v1" From: Alexander Vdolainen To: Taylan Kammer , Jelle Licht , guix-devel@gnu.org, gnu-system-discuss@gnu.org, ludo@gnu.org Message-ID: Subject: Re: Joint statement on the GNU Project References: <87ftk4hbhu.fsf@gnu.org> <8eaaa9a2-a5ff-b64a-48bf-954150fecc63@gmail.com> <87a7a67ukn.fsf@jlicht.xyz> <87dd438d-4c9e-1d7b-1f35-d9346f08f336@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <87dd438d-4c9e-1d7b-1f35-d9346f08f336@gmail.com> --ZBL0QQqTEPBg5vrsJJEK3LR8MZP5gkuSY Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 10/12/19 9:43 PM, Taylan Kammer wrote: > On 12.10.2019 01:04, Jelle Licht wrote: >> Taylan Kammer writes: >> >>> [snip] (skipped) >=20 > Going by this logic, we could ban support of communism based on things > done by the Soviet or things currently done by the People's Republic of= > China or North Korea. just to be more detailed - it's not a pure communism, it's some form of communism-based authoritarian way. (btw, communism sucks anyway) >=20 > There are many religious people who think homosexuality is "wrong" but > strongly disagree with violence, and rather feel "worried for" gay > people who they also try to treat with love. I think they are very > wrong about homosexuality, but I find it commendable that they don't > tolerate violence, and could not in good conscience call them evil and > request them to be silenced. In fact, I would not enjoy contributing t= o > a community that does so. I'm not religious one, however I suppose homosexuality is wrong (or it's some kind of disease to limit population with malformed genes). BUT, I will *never* oppose them just because they are wrong some kind. Moreover, I do *not* care about it. And I do *not* support any movement against homosexuality. BUT, I do *not* support any movement supporting this, especially those who are using dirty methods such as we can observe right now (against RMS I mean), and going further - those methods are going to looks like a pure fascism against normal people. >=20 > IMO the tabooing of world views based on harms they may cause, or harms= > they do cause in various parts of the world, is a slippery slope. > Almost every ideology has peaceful moderates and militant extremists. >=20 > The GNU project should publish a list of ideologies that are officially= > banned from its channels so people know what they're in for. All other= > topics should be treated neutrally so long as nobody is using slurs or = a > bullying attitude. Codes of conduct should clarify whether a rule such= > as "no homophobia" simply means no homophobic slurs/bullying, or whethe= r > it means that certain ideologies are banned and others favored. GNU is a technical community - and as a community shouldn't care about someone's politics view or homosexuality. It should be neutral for such things. >=20 >=20 > (I've been using religion and homophobia as an arbitrary example. > Should anyone feel upset by this choice of example, please tell me in > private or otherwise so I can switch to another example. Although I > don't wish to write much more on this off-topic topic...) >=20 >=20 > - Taylan >=20 --=20 Alexander Vdolainen, Evil contractor. --ZBL0QQqTEPBg5vrsJJEK3LR8MZP5gkuSY-- --roS7RRMRKTvk2qw4E3CwIbDPv3mnfLHV0 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQGzBAEBCAAdFiEEvyKKe3ldp4SYtvzERPbcZkg0M1UFAl2iSX4ACgkQRPbcZkg0 M1W2rQv+MEiP5BPJAN6jz6YTxTi+lOuvMfpRI7VOLQVziumuifLZDrxqamdWaAUe 8E4ntfzXudbgVvBjWGH/IIhK7oyOCy4rEBmnrMMSr39mwuHHbT8xzDOQdxsaO7XX zq2ncBBJRXSkWUv1VGB4jW8bo5Tc2uBABEjUWIFHR/qcCBgiI6cSvoVxeEOkonAK GuShlgbNywzUugfzr3vtClrakSkUO+1sReogWXh4F3cHNp/BIO90kq8fZ1UXa1aE ChUAycu3M3cWusmFalPPlehh4wi+W3bT517FvweLzyLCSI+jy4wKx53W3rA+co36 qHRvXhW/g3Tkw2q0UcAFGERAIJz82VGqgFMdJF5Eki8C/LlrbxDzlBTmNWGN2cnu Xn9Rd6yCOslSpBLFv4Bq6UBWEo4sKXIYsi5Pcgp9w6rcBzQvuoAX1i9qO2m+5a7t MIKOUbuxnhBwUhFSlPzN7pDdiZZU7s+tfFQmdDdlk+dxM7clpS9RtGcBI/ZMv3oo Zoqo679J =qHto -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --roS7RRMRKTvk2qw4E3CwIbDPv3mnfLHV0--