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* bug#47442: guix system delete-generations does not use bootloader configuration
@ 2021-03-28  4:42 raid5atemyhomework via Bug reports for GNU Guix
  2021-03-29  2:01 ` raid5atemyhomework via Bug reports for GNU Guix
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From: raid5atemyhomework via Bug reports for GNU Guix @ 2021-03-28  4:42 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: 47442

Hello,

I use a coreboot that does not have a VGA option rom, which means Grub can't use `gfxterm`, so I have this setting in my `operating-system`:

    (bootloader-configuration
      ; ...
      (terminal-outputs '(console)))

This lets me see a boot menu at startup even without the VGA option rom.

However, recently when I did a `guix system delete-generations` to remove some old configurations, I saw to my dismay that the `/boot/grub/grub.cfg` got reverted to `terminal_output gfxterm`.

Creating a pointless whitespace change to a daemon configuration file and `guix system reconfigure` got this fixed.  This workaround is undesirable since it makes deleting old generations a multi-step, non-atomic process.


The expected behavior is that whatever settings were used in my latest `bootloader-configuration` should not be touched by `guix system delete-generations`.
The actual behavior is `guix system delete-generations` uses the default configuration.

Looking at the code, it seems to be an issue with `guix/scripts/system.scm`'s `reinstall-bootloader` function:

```scheme
         ;; Use the detected bootloader with default configuration.
         ;; It will be enough to allow the system to boot.
         (bootloader-config (bootloader-configuration
                             (bootloader bootloader)))
```

While "it will be enough to allow the system to boot", it is not enough for me, on my specific system, to get a convenient boot menu where I can, you know, select older systems (absolutely vital due to the brittleness of Shepherd).  On my system, using `terminal_output gfxterm` leads to an "invisible" boot menu, making Guix's vaunted ability to have multiple bootable systems fairly useless --- I can't be sure what system I end up booting into since I can't see the boot menu.  I think on other systems as well that need other terminal outputs (such as some sort of `serial`) this will be a problem as well.

A possible solution would be to check if the current system has a `provenance`, and if so, to read in the file and look for the `configuration` field.  Then read *that* file and extract its `bootloader` field, and to only fall back to a default configuration if that attempt fails.  See https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/guix-devel/2021-03/msg00294.html for similar idea.  Would this be an acceptable solution?


Thanks
raid5atemyhomework




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* bug#47442: guix system delete-generations does not use bootloader configuration
  2021-03-28  4:42 bug#47442: guix system delete-generations does not use bootloader configuration raid5atemyhomework via Bug reports for GNU Guix
@ 2021-03-29  2:01 ` raid5atemyhomework via Bug reports for GNU Guix
  2021-07-23 15:32   ` raid5atemyhomework via Bug reports for GNU Guix
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 3+ messages in thread
From: raid5atemyhomework via Bug reports for GNU Guix @ 2021-03-29  2:01 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: 47442@debbugs.gnu.org

Note as well that keyboard layouts at Grub time are also broken by this.  As the keyboard layout is used when accepting passphrases for cryptodisks, this can leave a user potentially unable to boot at all without expert GRUB knowledge, if they selected a passphrase including characters not available on default US keyboard.


An alternative solution is to split the `grub.cfg` file into two pieces: one containing the bootloader configuration settings, the other containing the entries.  Then `reinstall-bootloader` just changes the entries.

On alternative bootloaders, there is usually little to no configuration.

* `depthcharge` - No configuration.
* `extlinux` - Only `timeout` configuration.
* `u-boot` - Based on `extlinux` (so only `timeout` configuration).

So a possible design would be to have a "split" generation of the configuration file.

This affects how `bootloader-configuration-file-generator` is used, however.  This affects three points:

* `gnu/machine/ssh.scm` - This is given a `bootloader-configuration` from the actual OS on the machine, so probably OK to use this legacy interface.
* `gnu/system.scm` - Like the above, given a `bootloader-configuration` from the actual OS on the machine.
* `gnu/scripts/system.scm` - This is the problem point identified before.


Yet another solution would be to augment `boot-parameters` with the fields of `bootloader-configuration`, but that violates DRY --- fields added to `bootloader-configuration` in the future need to be added to `boot-parameters` as well, so I think this is undesirable.


Thanks
raid5atemyhomework




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* bug#47442: guix system delete-generations does not use bootloader configuration
  2021-03-29  2:01 ` raid5atemyhomework via Bug reports for GNU Guix
@ 2021-07-23 15:32   ` raid5atemyhomework via Bug reports for GNU Guix
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 3+ messages in thread
From: raid5atemyhomework via Bug reports for GNU Guix @ 2021-07-23 15:32 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: 47442@debbugs.gnu.org

Bump.





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