From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mp0 ([2001:41d0:2:4a6f::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by ms11 with LMTPS id GHAVHHluzF6YOgAA0tVLHw (envelope-from ) for ; Tue, 26 May 2020 01:18:49 +0000 Received: from aspmx1.migadu.com ([2001:41d0:2:4a6f::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by mp0 with LMTPS id IPIlGHluzF5hPwAA1q6Kng (envelope-from ) for ; Tue, 26 May 2020 01:18:49 +0000 Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [209.51.188.17]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by aspmx1.migadu.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2333294042C for ; Tue, 26 May 2020 01:18:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost ([::1]:43516 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jdOEy-0007K5-1f for larch@yhetil.org; Mon, 25 May 2020 21:18:48 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:55558) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jdNxk-0002ZV-GL for help-guix@gnu.org; Mon, 25 May 2020 21:01:00 -0400 Received: from relay-1.mailobj.net ([213.182.54.6]:56296) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jdNxj-0005Sw-25 for help-guix@gnu.org; Mon, 25 May 2020 21:01:00 -0400 Received: from v-1c.localdomain (unknown [192.168.90.161]) by relay-1.mailobj.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 8986712C6; Tue, 26 May 2020 03:00:55 +0200 (CEST) Received: by mail-1.net-c.com [213.182.54.15] with ESMTP Tue, 26 May 2020 03:00:55 +0200 (CEST) X-EA-Auth: w0wtBklIWQpLsqR+Oepq18p2x10rSBzZiv9rAO9+n/zTUF0aASN4XXgoNEO2F8j8mMoD5D9Dn5NxZFeKyTK5arF/VbKfCG2+ From: Dmitry Alexandrov To: Efraim Flashner Subject: Re: python-pip is broken after updates In-Reply-To: <20200525061153.GB17182@E5400> (Efraim Flashner's message of "Mon, 25 May 2020 09:11:53 +0300") References: <20200525061153.GB17182@E5400> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) OpenPGP: id=525F7E60AD812C2361752BB4C8B0F8548EE7F3E7; url=https://openpgpkey.gnui.org/.well-known/openpgpkey/gnui.org/hu/hr4k5tkxm6shwdc18su4bkm34w3dctjd Date: Tue, 26 May 2020 04:00:47 +0300 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="=-=-="; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature" Received-SPF: pass client-ip=213.182.54.6; envelope-from=dag@gnui.org; helo=relay-1.mailobj.net X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: First seen = 2020/05/25 20:50:31 X-ACL-Warn: Detected OS = Linux 3.1-3.10 X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.9 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H4=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001 autolearn=_AUTOLEARN X-Spam_action: no action X-Mailman-Approved-At: Mon, 25 May 2020 21:18:07 -0400 X-BeenThere: help-guix@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: help-guix Errors-To: help-guix-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Help-Guix" X-Scanner: scn0 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of help-guix-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=help-guix-bounces@gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -2.11 X-TUID: IxCQDHIDRKqX --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Efraim Flashner wrote: > On Mon, May 25, 2020 at 01:34:18AM +0300, Dmitry Alexandrov wrote: >> znavko@disroot.org wrote: >>> protonvpn installs own client written on python3 requiring pip3. It wo= rks fine after installation under root. >>> Could you =E2=80=A6 make some advices? >> >> Guix aside, I definitely could advise you to stop using obscure ad-hoc s= oftware, that has to be run with superuser rights, when it=CA=BCs not neces= sary. And in your case it=CA=BCs not. > > This is certainly not useful advice. I have another experience. Quite a few people found an idea, that many ser= vices can be easily (in fact, sometimes even _easier_) be used without inst= alling any ad-hoc branded software, new to them. (Welcome to 2020. ;-). > It's not up to you to determine which software is appropriate and accepta= ble for another user to run. How have your thought shifted from from =E2=80=98advise=E2=80=99 to =E2=80= =98determine=E2=80=99, I wonder? --=-=-= Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iIMEARYIACsWIQRSX35grYEsI2F1K7TIsPhUjufz5wUCXsxqQA0cZGFnQGdudWku b3JnAAoJEMiw+FSO5/PnmiwBAKs8L4zXnEyzc9UFBV0fIwunz/NwXf66tVyusAjU ObITAP92/ytms5qHSriG4nGRRxzLl5Efhmg/HSWYSWZzsBVuAw== =zmto -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-=-=--